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	<title>Comments on: Bright Treasure: Chapter 4</title>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha! I thought of you, Maurine, when I typed this chapter! No way of knowing, but maybe it was a secret nod to one of the author&#039;s friends. I&#039;d lie to think so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I thought of you, Maurine, when I typed this chapter! No way of knowing, but maybe it was a secret nod to one of the author&#8217;s friends. I&#8217;d lie to think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where did the author come up with the name Bessie Streeper? That really surprised me. She must have known some Streepers. My mother&#039;s maiden name was Streeper and every person in the US named Streeper is a relative of mine and is probably in my huge Streeper database.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did the author come up with the name Bessie Streeper? That really surprised me. She must have known some Streepers. My mother&#8217;s maiden name was Streeper and every person in the US named Streeper is a relative of mine and is probably in my huge Streeper database.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amy T, loved your quick summary of the Arizona experience.  You&#039;ve hit all the major high points, ie, dry desert where farming was tough, the dams washed out regularly, and people came and went.  The ones who stayed had to be tough, hence the over achieving descendants.  Plus the continual conflict between Hopis, Navajo, Mormon settlers, gentiles miners and the federal government, all involved in a long tug of war over some pretty barren land. 

And don&#039;t be embarrassed about not reading my article yet.  I probably would not have gotten interested in that whole episode if my great grandparents hadn&#039;t been involved.  I will second your recommendations of McClintock&#039;s book, which is available in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9661&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; several places &lt;/a&gt; on the internet as an ebook for free.  Peterson&#039;s book is also great, and highlights many of the long term issues, such as the conflicts with the Aztec Land &amp; Cattle Company, and the mostly futile dam building efforts that took place over decades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy T, loved your quick summary of the Arizona experience.  You&#8217;ve hit all the major high points, ie, dry desert where farming was tough, the dams washed out regularly, and people came and went.  The ones who stayed had to be tough, hence the over achieving descendants.  Plus the continual conflict between Hopis, Navajo, Mormon settlers, gentiles miners and the federal government, all involved in a long tug of war over some pretty barren land. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t be embarrassed about not reading my article yet.  I probably would not have gotten interested in that whole episode if my great grandparents hadn&#8217;t been involved.  I will second your recommendations of McClintock&#8217;s book, which is available in <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9661" rel="nofollow"> several places </a> on the internet as an ebook for free.  Peterson&#8217;s book is also great, and highlights many of the long term issues, such as the conflicts with the Aztec Land &amp; Cattle Company, and the mostly futile dam building efforts that took place over decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a brief summary, Julia. [1]

Mormons settled northeastern Arizona starting in the 1870s. [2] It is a harsh, unforgiving climate. The Little Colorado river beds are sandy and the seasonal floods are heavy and sudden, so setting up irrigation systems was a monumental effort, one which only succeeded due to the communal nature of the Mormon settlements. [3]

The pioneers established a number of towns including Brigham City, Sunset, and Joseph City to the northwest; Springerville, Eagar, and Nutrioso in the White Mountains; and St. Johns and Snowflake in-between. [4]

The pioneers were more successful at cattle ranching than at farming. [5]

There are several native American tribes in the area including Navajo, Apache, Zuni, and Hopi. [6] By the time the Mormon settlers arrived, the tribes had been contained on reservations [7] and were largely peaceful. [8]

The Mormon missionaries and some of the Hopis were fascinated with each others&#039; legends and religious practices, which were similar in a number of ways. Chief Tuba was one of the earliest Hopi converts. [9] He invited some Mormons to settle on land near his home in Moencopi. The settlers called the town &quot;Tuba City.&quot; [10]

Although the relations between the settlers and the native peoples were largely peaceful at this time there were some major underlying cultural difficulties. For example, the United States government was forcibly removing Hopi children from their parents and putting them in government schools. I&#039;m interested (just a little bit) to see how Mrs Jones will treat these cultural tensions. (If she does at all.)

I think Ardis said this story happens in the early 1890s, so it is about ten years before the government decided to expand the reservation and bought out all the settlers at Tuba City. Many of them moved to Farmington, New Mexico.

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[1] Okay; so it turned into a long comment with ten footnotes. Evidently I&#039;m a little bored today...

[2] kevinf wrote a paper for the &lt;em&gt;Journal of Mormon History&lt;/em&gt; about the first failed expedition to the region in 1873. I am embarrassed to say that I have not yet read it. Other books on the region include McClintock&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books/about/Mormon_Settlement_in_Arizona_a_Record_of.html?id=WrkUAAAAYAAJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mormon Settlement in Arizona&lt;/a&gt; and Chas Peterson&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books/about/Take_up_your_mission_Mormon_colonizing_a.html?id=ERODAAAAIAAJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Take Up Your Mission&lt;/a&gt;.

[3] One of the interesting results of the struggles of these early pioneers is a surprising number of overachieving descendants, including members of the Udall, Lee, Romney, Flake, and other families. (Lots of doctors, lawyers, politicians, professors, judges, United States Senators, governors, and at least three presidential candidates among them.)

[4] Yes, there were other settlements in the area as well, including some over the border in New Mexico. St. Johns, Snowflake, Eagar and Springerville were the most successful of the communities.

[5] They had to deal with overgrazing and range wars, though. Think &lt;a href=&quot;http://theancestorfiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/joseph-city-and-hashknife-gang.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hashknife Gang&lt;/a&gt; (the Aztec Land and Cattle Company).

[6] The Navajo and Apache are Athabascan peoples, which means that they came from northern lands six hundred years ago (give or take a few centuries). The Zuni and Hopi are Puebloan peoples and the Hopi are of Uto-Aztecan origin, which means that they are related to tribes from points south.

[7] It&#039;s an awful, tragic story.

[8] A major exception is the Apache Wars and Geronimo Campaign, but that took place further south.

[9] If you&#039;re not familiar with his story, at least read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuba_%28Chief%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia article&lt;/a&gt;. Some of his family members are still members of the Church. For a fascinating look at the connection between this family and the Church, read the book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Me-Mine-Story-Helen-Sekaquaptewa/dp/0816502706&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Me and Mine&lt;/a&gt; by Helen Sekaquaptewa. Also, here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?locale=166&amp;sourceId=a8e1759235d0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nice little article&lt;/a&gt; by Richard Oman about some of the art that came from this mingling of cultures.

[10] The settlement is called &quot;Tanner&#039;s Ranch&quot; in the 1880 census, named after Seth Tanner. He was an explorer and miner, and many landforms in Northern Arizona are named after him. Here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://gallupjourney.com/2011/04/west-by-southwest-april-2011/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gossipy article&lt;/a&gt; about him, full of unsubstantiated rumor as well as actual history. Some of Seth&#039;s descendants still run trading posts in the Four Corners area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a brief summary, Julia. [1]</p>
<p>Mormons settled northeastern Arizona starting in the 1870s. [2] It is a harsh, unforgiving climate. The Little Colorado river beds are sandy and the seasonal floods are heavy and sudden, so setting up irrigation systems was a monumental effort, one which only succeeded due to the communal nature of the Mormon settlements. [3]</p>
<p>The pioneers established a number of towns including Brigham City, Sunset, and Joseph City to the northwest; Springerville, Eagar, and Nutrioso in the White Mountains; and St. Johns and Snowflake in-between. [4]</p>
<p>The pioneers were more successful at cattle ranching than at farming. [5]</p>
<p>There are several native American tribes in the area including Navajo, Apache, Zuni, and Hopi. [6] By the time the Mormon settlers arrived, the tribes had been contained on reservations [7] and were largely peaceful. [8]</p>
<p>The Mormon missionaries and some of the Hopis were fascinated with each others&#8217; legends and religious practices, which were similar in a number of ways. Chief Tuba was one of the earliest Hopi converts. [9] He invited some Mormons to settle on land near his home in Moencopi. The settlers called the town &#8220;Tuba City.&#8221; [10]</p>
<p>Although the relations between the settlers and the native peoples were largely peaceful at this time there were some major underlying cultural difficulties. For example, the United States government was forcibly removing Hopi children from their parents and putting them in government schools. I&#8217;m interested (just a little bit) to see how Mrs Jones will treat these cultural tensions. (If she does at all.)</p>
<p>I think Ardis said this story happens in the early 1890s, so it is about ten years before the government decided to expand the reservation and bought out all the settlers at Tuba City. Many of them moved to Farmington, New Mexico.</p>
<p>____<br />
[1] Okay; so it turned into a long comment with ten footnotes. Evidently I&#8217;m a little bored today&#8230;</p>
<p>[2] kevinf wrote a paper for the <em>Journal of Mormon History</em> about the first failed expedition to the region in 1873. I am embarrassed to say that I have not yet read it. Other books on the region include McClintock&#8217;s <a href="http://books.google.com/books/about/Mormon_Settlement_in_Arizona_a_Record_of.html?id=WrkUAAAAYAAJ" rel="nofollow">Mormon Settlement in Arizona</a> and Chas Peterson&#8217;s <a href="http://books.google.com/books/about/Take_up_your_mission_Mormon_colonizing_a.html?id=ERODAAAAIAAJ" rel="nofollow">Take Up Your Mission</a>.</p>
<p>[3] One of the interesting results of the struggles of these early pioneers is a surprising number of overachieving descendants, including members of the Udall, Lee, Romney, Flake, and other families. (Lots of doctors, lawyers, politicians, professors, judges, United States Senators, governors, and at least three presidential candidates among them.)</p>
<p>[4] Yes, there were other settlements in the area as well, including some over the border in New Mexico. St. Johns, Snowflake, Eagar and Springerville were the most successful of the communities.</p>
<p>[5] They had to deal with overgrazing and range wars, though. Think <a href="http://theancestorfiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/joseph-city-and-hashknife-gang.html" rel="nofollow">Hashknife Gang</a> (the Aztec Land and Cattle Company).</p>
<p>[6] The Navajo and Apache are Athabascan peoples, which means that they came from northern lands six hundred years ago (give or take a few centuries). The Zuni and Hopi are Puebloan peoples and the Hopi are of Uto-Aztecan origin, which means that they are related to tribes from points south.</p>
<p>[7] It&#8217;s an awful, tragic story.</p>
<p>[8] A major exception is the Apache Wars and Geronimo Campaign, but that took place further south.</p>
<p>[9] If you&#8217;re not familiar with his story, at least read the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuba_%28Chief%29" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia article</a>. Some of his family members are still members of the Church. For a fascinating look at the connection between this family and the Church, read the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Me-Mine-Story-Helen-Sekaquaptewa/dp/0816502706" rel="nofollow">Me and Mine</a> by Helen Sekaquaptewa. Also, here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?locale=166&amp;sourceId=a8e1759235d0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD" rel="nofollow">nice little article</a> by Richard Oman about some of the art that came from this mingling of cultures.</p>
<p>[10] The settlement is called &#8220;Tanner&#8217;s Ranch&#8221; in the 1880 census, named after Seth Tanner. He was an explorer and miner, and many landforms in Northern Arizona are named after him. Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://gallupjourney.com/2011/04/west-by-southwest-april-2011/" rel="nofollow">gossipy article</a> about him, full of unsubstantiated rumor as well as actual history. Some of Seth&#8217;s descendants still run trading posts in the Four Corners area.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to admit I am still a little confused with the background. Thanks for the links Amy T.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit I am still a little confused with the background. Thanks for the links Amy T.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four episodes in and I just realized one of the main characters is named John Wayne.

Okay, so all considerations of plot and character and historical accuracy aside, the settlements at Moencopi and Tuba City are a fascinating little chapter in Arizona history, tying together three legendary characters: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuba_%28Chief%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chief Tuba&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jacobhamblin.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jacob Hamblin&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://theancestorfiles.blogspot.com/2009/10/cameron-arizona-and-seth-tanner.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seth Tanner&lt;/a&gt;. 

A distant cousin of mine has been doing some interesting work on the history of the Tuba City settlement from its start in 1875 to the government buyout in 1902/1903. &lt;a href=&quot;http://ongrannystrail.wordpress.com/category/places/tuba-city-coconino-arizona/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Early Tuba City, Arizona&lt;/a&gt;. (Her six posts are in reverse order. Due to the expansion of the reservation, the contents of the town are documented in a thorough manner, and she includes all these documents in her posts.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four episodes in and I just realized one of the main characters is named John Wayne.</p>
<p>Okay, so all considerations of plot and character and historical accuracy aside, the settlements at Moencopi and Tuba City are a fascinating little chapter in Arizona history, tying together three legendary characters: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuba_%28Chief%29" rel="nofollow">Chief Tuba</a>, <a href="http://www.jacobhamblin.com/" rel="nofollow">Jacob Hamblin</a>, and <a href="http://theancestorfiles.blogspot.com/2009/10/cameron-arizona-and-seth-tanner.html" rel="nofollow">Seth Tanner</a>. </p>
<p>A distant cousin of mine has been doing some interesting work on the history of the Tuba City settlement from its start in 1875 to the government buyout in 1902/1903. <a href="http://ongrannystrail.wordpress.com/category/places/tuba-city-coconino-arizona/" rel="nofollow">Early Tuba City, Arizona</a>. (Her six posts are in reverse order. Due to the expansion of the reservation, the contents of the town are documented in a thorough manner, and she includes all these documents in her posts.)</p>
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