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	<title>Comments on: An Incident</title>
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		<title>By: Mina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 00:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked it. 

And I wish The Friend would consider such a retrospective.

One of the items on my list of topics for a certain group blog I am associated with is &quot;Memories of The Children&#039;s Friend.&quot; I think I&#039;m going to have to wait til the next time I&#039;m in Utah and can dig out the archive of old Children&#039;s Friends in my parents basement to be able to do this though. My memories of the fiction, illustration, and other content of &quot;my&quot; years is still very vivid. And my child&#039;s brain made no distinction between that and other children&#039;s magazines I read, like &quot;Jack and Jill&quot; and &quot;The Golden Magazine.&quot; 

They seem, at least in memory, to be very similar: all of them had an educational agenda which could loosely be termed &quot;moral,&quot; but none of them were particularly pedantic about it. I&#039;m sure my child brain ignored things I thought &quot;boring,&quot; and I&#039;m also sure my adult brain has also edited these memories. Still, the Children&#039;s Friend holds a special place in heart and went a long way in crafting my identity as &quot;Utahn&quot; and &quot;Mormon.&quot; While I&#039;ve now lived over half my life outside of Utah and I&#039;m no longer a member, those categories have had a determining effect on who and what I am, the magnitude of which I am only just recognizing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked it. </p>
<p>And I wish The Friend would consider such a retrospective.</p>
<p>One of the items on my list of topics for a certain group blog I am associated with is &#8220;Memories of The Children&#8217;s Friend.&#8221; I think I&#8217;m going to have to wait til the next time I&#8217;m in Utah and can dig out the archive of old Children&#8217;s Friends in my parents basement to be able to do this though. My memories of the fiction, illustration, and other content of &#8220;my&#8221; years is still very vivid. And my child&#8217;s brain made no distinction between that and other children&#8217;s magazines I read, like &#8220;Jack and Jill&#8221; and &#8220;The Golden Magazine.&#8221; </p>
<p>They seem, at least in memory, to be very similar: all of them had an educational agenda which could loosely be termed &#8220;moral,&#8221; but none of them were particularly pedantic about it. I&#8217;m sure my child brain ignored things I thought &#8220;boring,&#8221; and I&#8217;m also sure my adult brain has also edited these memories. Still, the Children&#8217;s Friend holds a special place in heart and went a long way in crafting my identity as &#8220;Utahn&#8221; and &#8220;Mormon.&#8221; While I&#8217;ve now lived over half my life outside of Utah and I&#8217;m no longer a member, those categories have had a determining effect on who and what I am, the magnitude of which I am only just recognizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s fiction, without anything that would notify a reader that it was based on any real incident. 

Remember that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/15/rape-suicide-and-loss-of-virtue-a-childrens-christmas-story/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1910 Christmas story&lt;/a&gt; where potential rape was a main feature? Although I don&#039;t know what was considered good mainstream kids&#039; fiction in that generation, I get the feeling that a lot of topics we wouldn&#039;t consider suitable for kids was acceptable. These kinds of stories -- non-fiction -- are told in full gory detail in the newspapers of that era, so maybe fiction wasn&#039;t that different.

But like Coffinberry said, I think it was well told, once you accept the convention. I think it was meant to stir feelings of pity and sentimentality, which it does do, and quite well, except that it doesn&#039;t consider the ramifications that kevinf mentions.  

I wonder if &lt;em&gt;The Friend&lt;/em&gt; would consider a retrospective of earlier LDS kids&#039; lit ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fiction, without anything that would notify a reader that it was based on any real incident. </p>
<p>Remember that <a href="http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/15/rape-suicide-and-loss-of-virtue-a-childrens-christmas-story/" rel="nofollow">1910 Christmas story</a> where potential rape was a main feature? Although I don&#8217;t know what was considered good mainstream kids&#8217; fiction in that generation, I get the feeling that a lot of topics we wouldn&#8217;t consider suitable for kids was acceptable. These kinds of stories &#8212; non-fiction &#8212; are told in full gory detail in the newspapers of that era, so maybe fiction wasn&#8217;t that different.</p>
<p>But like Coffinberry said, I think it was well told, once you accept the convention. I think it was meant to stir feelings of pity and sentimentality, which it does do, and quite well, except that it doesn&#8217;t consider the ramifications that kevinf mentions.  </p>
<p>I wonder if <em>The Friend</em> would consider a retrospective of earlier LDS kids&#8217; lit &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A travel veil, to keep the thick road dust off her face and neck, not primarily for modesty!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A travel veil, to keep the thick road dust off her face and neck, not primarily for modesty!</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/09/07/an-incident/comment-page-1/#comment-261576</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was pretty sure it was going to be a 3 Nephites story right up until he got crushed under the train.  What a disappointment.  

Amy, I didn&#039;t realize the narrator was female until that line.  Ardis, was this labeled fiction in the JI, or supposed to be a true incident?  As a short story, it has a rather unhappy and disappointing ending.  It almost seems to say that once you&#039;ve done something wrong, nothing can atone for the transgression.  He comes across as deserving his death as his only way to pay for his bullying.  Maybe I am being too harsh, but it is an odd piece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty sure it was going to be a 3 Nephites story right up until he got crushed under the train.  What a disappointment.  </p>
<p>Amy, I didn&#8217;t realize the narrator was female until that line.  Ardis, was this labeled fiction in the JI, or supposed to be a true incident?  As a short story, it has a rather unhappy and disappointing ending.  It almost seems to say that once you&#8217;ve done something wrong, nothing can atone for the transgression.  He comes across as deserving his death as his only way to pay for his bullying.  Maybe I am being too harsh, but it is an odd piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;From behind the shelter of my thick veil&quot;

??

What a curious story!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From behind the shelter of my thick veil&#8221;</p>
<p>??</p>
<p>What a curious story!</p>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautifully told. And full of details that could&#039;ha been snatched from modern headlines. (Just barely a year ago here in our town, a girl from Utah hopping a train back to her college town had a very similar experience, except she lived thanks to the paramedics and nurses who happened to be in the traffic waiting for the train to pass.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully told. And full of details that could&#8217;ha been snatched from modern headlines. (Just barely a year ago here in our town, a girl from Utah hopping a train back to her college town had a very similar experience, except she lived thanks to the paramedics and nurses who happened to be in the traffic waiting for the train to pass.)</p>
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