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	<title>Comments on: Political Tuesday: Declaration of Belief: Lesson 3 (1949-50)</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen, Grant!  

Wanna write it with me and we can post it on my blog (and yours too if you have one and want to)?  I was planning to start working on a series of posts on things that &quot;could be found in amy encyclopedia, that we haven&#039;t bother learning about, now that we have Google.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Grant!  </p>
<p>Wanna write it with me and we can post it on my blog (and yours too if you have one and want to)?  I was planning to start working on a series of posts on things that &#8220;could be found in amy encyclopedia, that we haven&#8217;t bother learning about, now that we have Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This series is really fascinating. Elder Durham seems so positive that we can (and should) &quot;combine together for [our] common good&quot; as did the Pilgrim Fathers (and Mothers). And he questions whether it&#039;s possible to apply this world-wide encouraging us to at least try.


And by the way, as a flaming left-of-center moderate, I have no problem with the three basic principles of individual conscience, right of property, and protection of each individual life - even as I know we tend to bog down on the specifics in our modern world - as we always have. Yet we must keep on trying to &quot;combine together&quot; to figure it out as we have a sacred responsibility to do so.

And I wish somebody in our Sunday School class would do a ten minute report on the Hague Peace Conferences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This series is really fascinating. Elder Durham seems so positive that we can (and should) &#8220;combine together for [our] common good&#8221; as did the Pilgrim Fathers (and Mothers). And he questions whether it&#8217;s possible to apply this world-wide encouraging us to at least try.</p>
<p>And by the way, as a flaming left-of-center moderate, I have no problem with the three basic principles of individual conscience, right of property, and protection of each individual life &#8211; even as I know we tend to bog down on the specifics in our modern world &#8211; as we always have. Yet we must keep on trying to &#8220;combine together&#8221; to figure it out as we have a sacred responsibility to do so.</p>
<p>And I wish somebody in our Sunday School class would do a ten minute report on the Hague Peace Conferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several things I found fascinating:

There is a general expectation that ward members will be familiar with the philosophers and political theorists, upon which the world governments, at the time, were based. 

I was always amazed that my grandmother, who did not graduate from high school, but who took &quot;civics&quot; during the years she was enrolled, was the only one I could discuss political theories with. She was a Republican her entire voting life, but she and I could discuss Kant and Bentham, and how even communist principles laid out in Lenin&#039;s original papers were in line with many church teachings. I was in an honors PoliSci program, and yet our understandings were fairly similar during my first year in the program. 

The use of the scientific method, as a means for hope that a single, worldwide government, COULD be established, as long as correct principles were taught and instituted by that government. The UN was seen as a positive step towards peace and a place to make mutually beneficial arrangements in the world. 

The class was asked to go back to the Mayflower Compact and the Government of God, and then see if the Constitution would naturally follow from it. It seems that inherent in this kind of group brainstorming that there was not just a possibility for people of differing opinions, and good conscience to both interpret things differently, but a question about whether the Constitution was the only inspired kind of government. It would be interesting to see if members today could even try to have a similar brainstorming session. 

Lots of things to think about here. 

Julia
poetrysansonions.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several things I found fascinating:</p>
<p>There is a general expectation that ward members will be familiar with the philosophers and political theorists, upon which the world governments, at the time, were based. </p>
<p>I was always amazed that my grandmother, who did not graduate from high school, but who took &#8220;civics&#8221; during the years she was enrolled, was the only one I could discuss political theories with. She was a Republican her entire voting life, but she and I could discuss Kant and Bentham, and how even communist principles laid out in Lenin&#8217;s original papers were in line with many church teachings. I was in an honors PoliSci program, and yet our understandings were fairly similar during my first year in the program. </p>
<p>The use of the scientific method, as a means for hope that a single, worldwide government, COULD be established, as long as correct principles were taught and instituted by that government. The UN was seen as a positive step towards peace and a place to make mutually beneficial arrangements in the world. </p>
<p>The class was asked to go back to the Mayflower Compact and the Government of God, and then see if the Constitution would naturally follow from it. It seems that inherent in this kind of group brainstorming that there was not just a possibility for people of differing opinions, and good conscience to both interpret things differently, but a question about whether the Constitution was the only inspired kind of government. It would be interesting to see if members today could even try to have a similar brainstorming session. </p>
<p>Lots of things to think about here. </p>
<p>Julia<br />
poetrysansonions.blogspot.com</p>
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