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		<title>By: Maurine Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have never had the experience of dressing the dead. I&#039;m surprised that my sister and never thought of is in the case of mother and our aunt. But, we have fixed the hair of both mom and Aunt Dorothy and corrected the use of bright red lipstick on one of them. Doing their hair was also a reverent experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never had the experience of dressing the dead. I&#8217;m surprised that my sister and never thought of is in the case of mother and our aunt. But, we have fixed the hair of both mom and Aunt Dorothy and corrected the use of bright red lipstick on one of them. Doing their hair was also a reverent experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/08/10/dressing-the-dead-reprise/comment-page-1/#comment-253020</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About cut-up-the-back clothing:

When you dress yourself, you almost certainly put on your garment top and dress over your head, raising your arms high to put them through the sleeves. You can&#039;t do that when dressing someone else; arms and shoulders are just not that flexible then. So you put them on feet first, as if the person were stepping into her clothes. When you get the clothing pulled up as far as the person&#039;s hands (her arms will be lying straight at her sides), you work her hands into the sleeves, then continue pulling the clothes up her arms until they&#039;re in the right position over the shoulders. 

That works just fine for soft, wide-necked articles like garment tops or loosely-fitted dresses that hang from the shoulders. But if the dress is more tailored, with a fitted bodice or a waist band, or if you&#039;re putting on a skirt and a top with a narrow neck and without buttons, there&#039;s no way to get it on feet-first -- it won&#039;t fit over the hips. You couldn&#039;t put it on yourself that way in life, and you won&#039;t be able to put it on anyone else. But if it&#039;s open at the back, you can easily slip it on, as if it were a hospital gown, with the back opening completely invisible in the casket.

Even so, there isn&#039;t any bottom-in-the-breeze indignity, even in imagination. You&#039;ve put on garments or other underclothing, maybe including a slip, and in the case of temple clothes, the robe is also there in back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About cut-up-the-back clothing:</p>
<p>When you dress yourself, you almost certainly put on your garment top and dress over your head, raising your arms high to put them through the sleeves. You can&#8217;t do that when dressing someone else; arms and shoulders are just not that flexible then. So you put them on feet first, as if the person were stepping into her clothes. When you get the clothing pulled up as far as the person&#8217;s hands (her arms will be lying straight at her sides), you work her hands into the sleeves, then continue pulling the clothes up her arms until they&#8217;re in the right position over the shoulders. </p>
<p>That works just fine for soft, wide-necked articles like garment tops or loosely-fitted dresses that hang from the shoulders. But if the dress is more tailored, with a fitted bodice or a waist band, or if you&#8217;re putting on a skirt and a top with a narrow neck and without buttons, there&#8217;s no way to get it on feet-first &#8212; it won&#8217;t fit over the hips. You couldn&#8217;t put it on yourself that way in life, and you won&#8217;t be able to put it on anyone else. But if it&#8217;s open at the back, you can easily slip it on, as if it were a hospital gown, with the back opening completely invisible in the casket.</p>
<p>Even so, there isn&#8217;t any bottom-in-the-breeze indignity, even in imagination. You&#8217;ve put on garments or other underclothing, maybe including a slip, and in the case of temple clothes, the robe is also there in back.</p>
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		<title>By: britt</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/08/10/dressing-the-dead-reprise/comment-page-1/#comment-253019</link>
		<dc:creator>britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is such a tender subject.  Such wonderful , practical advice given here so delicately.  


thank you.  

a little too close to home, but still thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such a tender subject.  Such wonderful , practical advice given here so delicately.  </p>
<p>thank you.  </p>
<p>a little too close to home, but still thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Glauser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Glauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The clothes being cut up in the back seems strange to me. I can just imagine feeling my resurrected behind blowing in the wind . . . I&#039;m sorry to treat this matter lightly.

I think you did an admirable job at putting things in a loving and informational way. Thanks, Ardis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The clothes being cut up in the back seems strange to me. I can just imagine feeling my resurrected behind blowing in the wind . . . I&#8217;m sorry to treat this matter lightly.</p>
<p>I think you did an admirable job at putting things in a loving and informational way. Thanks, Ardis.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Julia--12

Yes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Julia&#8211;12</p>
<p>Yes</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do wonder, if someone is being cremated, are they cremated in their temple robes?

Julia
poetrysansonions.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wonder, if someone is being cremated, are they cremated in their temple robes?</p>
<p>Julia<br />
poetrysansonions.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Sister P. was a late-middle-aged sister who had died of cancer. Her very elderly mother, Sister W., was not up to the heavy physical work of dressing her daughter. She sat on a chair in the corner, clearly wanting to help but too frail for the lifting and rocking necessary. Near the end, Mom had one of those flashes of inspiration that shine in my memories of her. Holding Sister P.’s slippers, Mom turned to Sister W. and said, “You put on her first shoes – would you put on her last?” Sister W. did so, reverently grateful for this last act of service to her child.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Tears.

Thank you. On a very physically painful day, I needed this.

Julia
poetrysansonions.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sister P. was a late-middle-aged sister who had died of cancer. Her very elderly mother, Sister W., was not up to the heavy physical work of dressing her daughter. She sat on a chair in the corner, clearly wanting to help but too frail for the lifting and rocking necessary. Near the end, Mom had one of those flashes of inspiration that shine in my memories of her. Holding Sister P.’s slippers, Mom turned to Sister W. and said, “You put on her first shoes – would you put on her last?” Sister W. did so, reverently grateful for this last act of service to her child.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tears.</p>
<p>Thank you. On a very physically painful day, I needed this.</p>
<p>Julia<br />
poetrysansonions.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...and the issue of salvation being tied to burial in temple clothes came up when Jean Baptiste was caught having robbed dozens and perhaps hundreds of bodies of their clothing.  BY clearly declared that such burial was not essential for salvation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and the issue of salvation being tied to burial in temple clothes came up when Jean Baptiste was caught having robbed dozens and perhaps hundreds of bodies of their clothing.  BY clearly declared that such burial was not essential for salvation.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/08/10/dressing-the-dead-reprise/comment-page-1/#comment-252580</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Truely lovely.

As far as I can tell, burial in temple clothes began immediately after the Nauvoo Temple&#039;s utility.  It is clearly documented in Winter Quarters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truely lovely.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, burial in temple clothes began immediately after the Nauvoo Temple&#8217;s utility.  It is clearly documented in Winter Quarters.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/08/10/dressing-the-dead-reprise/comment-page-1/#comment-252562</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know that anybody has ever taught that burial in temple clothes is tied to salvation, Steve, except in the broadest possible sense, maybe, of an indication of devotion. Some people do designate these details ahead of time, if being buried in temple clothes or a wedding dress or Masonic paraphernalia is important to them. And as you say, it&#039;s beyond the control of the one most interested, in any case. I don&#039;t know about mixing parts of &quot;uniforms&quot; -- I mean, you *could* choose to do anything, and no Church official is going to interfere, if anybody beyond the next-of-kin were even aware of it. But I don&#039;t know whether the official Church has any advice one way or the other.

Thank you, friends, for your comments. It&#039;s a tender topic, and it has been an honor to hear from so many people over the past few years who found this when they needed it, and to have been of help to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that anybody has ever taught that burial in temple clothes is tied to salvation, Steve, except in the broadest possible sense, maybe, of an indication of devotion. Some people do designate these details ahead of time, if being buried in temple clothes or a wedding dress or Masonic paraphernalia is important to them. And as you say, it&#8217;s beyond the control of the one most interested, in any case. I don&#8217;t know about mixing parts of &#8220;uniforms&#8221; &#8212; I mean, you *could* choose to do anything, and no Church official is going to interfere, if anybody beyond the next-of-kin were even aware of it. But I don&#8217;t know whether the official Church has any advice one way or the other.</p>
<p>Thank you, friends, for your comments. It&#8217;s a tender topic, and it has been an honor to hear from so many people over the past few years who found this when they needed it, and to have been of help to them.</p>
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