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	<title>Comments on: A Daughter of Martha: Chapter 4</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/05/07/a-daughter-of-martha-chapter-4/comment-page-1/#comment-222208</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clotted cream never sounds very good to me, but is it somewhat like cottage cheese?  

Ardis, I loved your alternate names for the characters, so I am now imagining how their voices sound.  Catherine sounds like the nasally falsetto English voices used by the Monty Python cast when they were dressed in drag playing older female characters. Lott Gascom now sounds like Manuel the waiter from Fawlty Towers, and Jonas looks and sounds like George McFly from the first Back to the Future movie.

And your prediction that there are even more trials to come sounds exciting, just like watching the movie &lt;i&gt;Santa Claus vs, the Martians&lt;/i&gt;.  &quot;Make it stop, no, wait, don&#039;t make it stop!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clotted cream never sounds very good to me, but is it somewhat like cottage cheese?  </p>
<p>Ardis, I loved your alternate names for the characters, so I am now imagining how their voices sound.  Catherine sounds like the nasally falsetto English voices used by the Monty Python cast when they were dressed in drag playing older female characters. Lott Gascom now sounds like Manuel the waiter from Fawlty Towers, and Jonas looks and sounds like George McFly from the first Back to the Future movie.</p>
<p>And your prediction that there are even more trials to come sounds exciting, just like watching the movie <i>Santa Claus vs, the Martians</i>.  &#8220;Make it stop, no, wait, don&#8217;t make it stop!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/05/07/a-daughter-of-martha-chapter-4/comment-page-1/#comment-222166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;d better be, because I don&#039;t see any other way out for all the trials that lie ahead in Gloria&#039;s future ...

Yes, Mina, pictures! Now who do we know who is something of an artist who could provide those?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;d better be, because I don&#8217;t see any other way out for all the trials that lie ahead in Gloria&#8217;s future &#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, Mina, pictures! Now who do we know who is something of an artist who could provide those?</p>
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		<title>By: E. Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/05/07/a-daughter-of-martha-chapter-4/comment-page-1/#comment-222161</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 12:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, this story is just weird. But I have to keep reading to see if my theory that the gourds are full of D1AM0NDS!!!! is correct...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this story is just weird. But I have to keep reading to see if my theory that the gourds are full of D1AM0NDS!!!! is correct&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 12:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Needs illustrations. Oh how I wish it had illustrations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needs illustrations. Oh how I wish it had illustrations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/05/07/a-daughter-of-martha-chapter-4/comment-page-1/#comment-222100</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 04:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be easier if the characters were named 

Spoiled English Woman with Hairdressing and Clotted Cream Fetishes, and 

Bizarrely Handicapped Little Girl With Special Skills Needed In the Plot, and 

Lazy Adult Son, and 

Father in South Africa Who Probably Tears His Own Envelopes to Fool Family Into Thinking He Tried to Send Money, 

wouldn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be easier if the characters were named </p>
<p>Spoiled English Woman with Hairdressing and Clotted Cream Fetishes, and </p>
<p>Bizarrely Handicapped Little Girl With Special Skills Needed In the Plot, and </p>
<p>Lazy Adult Son, and </p>
<p>Father in South Africa Who Probably Tears His Own Envelopes to Fool Family Into Thinking He Tried to Send Money, </p>
<p>wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 04:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This story has so much going on that when I start reading the new part, I don&#039;t recognize the names of key players. So, I have to go back to the preceding chapter to get caught up on what is happening and to whom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story has so much going on that when I start reading the new part, I don&#8217;t recognize the names of key players. So, I have to go back to the preceding chapter to get caught up on what is happening and to whom.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/05/07/a-daughter-of-martha-chapter-4/comment-page-1/#comment-221942</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 22:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve hit on the only real value I see in this story, kevinf. It&#039;s like anything by Dan Brown: What weird thing is going to happen next? I don&#039;t really care, but I can&#039;t resist turning the page to find out!

The other thing I wonder is how stories like this were received by readers of the Church magazines in the 1930s. Did they think they were great? Did they pull out the popcorn the same way we do? Did the editors ever think twice about publishing them? I just don&#039;t know.

I promise you that neither the Easter Bunny nor anybody&#039;s fairy godmother will make an appearance in this story. Other than that, though, I make no promises. 

And I&#039;ve already picked out a lighter, much more recent, more Mormony story for our next serial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit on the only real value I see in this story, kevinf. It&#8217;s like anything by Dan Brown: What weird thing is going to happen next? I don&#8217;t really care, but I can&#8217;t resist turning the page to find out!</p>
<p>The other thing I wonder is how stories like this were received by readers of the Church magazines in the 1930s. Did they think they were great? Did they pull out the popcorn the same way we do? Did the editors ever think twice about publishing them? I just don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I promise you that neither the Easter Bunny nor anybody&#8217;s fairy godmother will make an appearance in this story. Other than that, though, I make no promises. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve already picked out a lighter, much more recent, more Mormony story for our next serial.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/05/07/a-daughter-of-martha-chapter-4/comment-page-1/#comment-221883</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t even think I know where to begin.  If I was supposed to understand that Gloria&#039;s sickness = pregnant with twins, I somehow missed it, and was wondering what was up with the new babies.  And what the heck is a third trimester pregnant woman doing crawling around up in the rafters of the barn?

Catherine is too much the comic book character to take very seriously, although some shred of humanity does seem to drop on her unexpectedly.  I should be used to Ivy Stone&#039;s dysfunctional families and totally weird plot developments at this point, but it is still just really jarring to read some of this.  

So my guess that Gloria&#039;s father would step in and save the day at some point is off, but I should realize by now that Ms. Stone is not into telegraphing her plot points well.  She is aspiring to that level of mediocrity in my humble opinion.  

But what this lacks in good writing (ie, plot development, fully developed characters, etc) is somewhat compensated for with just plain watch-the-train-wreck weirdness.  Maybe if she turned her story ideas over to Joss Whedon (&lt;em&gt;Buffy, FIrefly, The Avengers&lt;/em&gt;), we might have something more interesting.  Like fully empowered heroines, an appreciation for the unappreciated, and truly developed characters, quirky or not.  Whedon could have done something more with the poor Anna.  I kept thinking of &lt;em&gt;Cipher in ths Snow&lt;/em&gt; when I read about her. 

Well, I am in it up to my knees at this point, might as well keep going forward, as I really have only one idea of what is going to happen.  I&#039;ll just have to wait and see what will next make me drop my metaphorical popcorn.  I have already figured that there is a stand-in for her father already on scene.  Gourds, anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even think I know where to begin.  If I was supposed to understand that Gloria&#8217;s sickness = pregnant with twins, I somehow missed it, and was wondering what was up with the new babies.  And what the heck is a third trimester pregnant woman doing crawling around up in the rafters of the barn?</p>
<p>Catherine is too much the comic book character to take very seriously, although some shred of humanity does seem to drop on her unexpectedly.  I should be used to Ivy Stone&#8217;s dysfunctional families and totally weird plot developments at this point, but it is still just really jarring to read some of this.  </p>
<p>So my guess that Gloria&#8217;s father would step in and save the day at some point is off, but I should realize by now that Ms. Stone is not into telegraphing her plot points well.  She is aspiring to that level of mediocrity in my humble opinion.  </p>
<p>But what this lacks in good writing (ie, plot development, fully developed characters, etc) is somewhat compensated for with just plain watch-the-train-wreck weirdness.  Maybe if she turned her story ideas over to Joss Whedon (<em>Buffy, FIrefly, The Avengers</em>), we might have something more interesting.  Like fully empowered heroines, an appreciation for the unappreciated, and truly developed characters, quirky or not.  Whedon could have done something more with the poor Anna.  I kept thinking of <em>Cipher in ths Snow</em> when I read about her. </p>
<p>Well, I am in it up to my knees at this point, might as well keep going forward, as I really have only one idea of what is going to happen.  I&#8217;ll just have to wait and see what will next make me drop my metaphorical popcorn.  I have already figured that there is a stand-in for her father already on scene.  Gourds, anyone?</p>
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