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	<title>Comments on: Expatriation &#8212; Chapter 1 (of 10)</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-185042</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She has been taught to hate something, then finds out she is that something, so now she hates herself.  That describes just what happens to children these days who come to realize they are gay.  They hate themselves.  That is the tragedy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She has been taught to hate something, then finds out she is that something, so now she hates herself.  That describes just what happens to children these days who come to realize they are gay.  They hate themselves.  That is the tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184824</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the clarification, Ardis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification, Ardis.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184819</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the rather arbitrary construction of the races, Fijians were considered different from other Polynesians. In the church setting, most Polynesians were considered descendants of Lehi. The Fijians, who are much blacker than Samoans and Tahitians and Maoris, were considered negroid, as were the aboriginal peoples of Australia. 

In the context of this story, it&#039;s the fact that Nell&#039;s ancestry is Fijian that matters. The Everetts might still have objected to a Samoan ancestry the same as they presumably would have objected to Hispanic or Native American or perhaps even southern or eastern European -- but it&#039;s the presumed negroid origins of the Fijians that &quot;taints&quot; Nell and makes an absolutely impenetrable barrier to this marriage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the rather arbitrary construction of the races, Fijians were considered different from other Polynesians. In the church setting, most Polynesians were considered descendants of Lehi. The Fijians, who are much blacker than Samoans and Tahitians and Maoris, were considered negroid, as were the aboriginal peoples of Australia. </p>
<p>In the context of this story, it&#8217;s the fact that Nell&#8217;s ancestry is Fijian that matters. The Everetts might still have objected to a Samoan ancestry the same as they presumably would have objected to Hispanic or Native American or perhaps even southern or eastern European &#8212; but it&#8217;s the presumed negroid origins of the Fijians that &#8220;taints&#8221; Nell and makes an absolutely impenetrable barrier to this marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt, good question.  I&#039;ll need to do a bit more digging, but I think there may have been a distinction between Maoris and the darker skinned natives of Fiji and Samoa.  I&#039;ll verify some dates, and report back tomorrow, if not sooner (I don&#039;t keep my copy of Prince&#039;s DOM bio at work, sorry!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, good question.  I&#8217;ll need to do a bit more digging, but I think there may have been a distinction between Maoris and the darker skinned natives of Fiji and Samoa.  I&#8217;ll verify some dates, and report back tomorrow, if not sooner (I don&#8217;t keep my copy of Prince&#8217;s DOM bio at work, sorry!)</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184783</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a different subject, what does &quot;tinker&#039;s dam&quot; mean, and is it different than a &quot;tinker&#039;s damn&quot;?  I&#039;ve seen it both ways, but I always suspect that Ardis&#039;s way is correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a different subject, what does &#8220;tinker&#8217;s dam&#8221; mean, and is it different than a &#8220;tinker&#8217;s damn&#8221;?  I&#8217;ve seen it both ways, but I always suspect that Ardis&#8217;s way is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184772</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@kevinf: I&#039;m not sure what the Priesthood timeline is for the South Seas islanders, but I believe it predates the 50&#039;s.

My grandfather served his mission in New Zealand from 1947-1949. He wrote about several native Maoris in New Zealand as &quot;elders,&quot; and one in particular who served as a district president. At the time he served, New Zealand had 15 districts with 75 branches, which I am certain could not have sustained by missionaries alone. He also writes of Elder Matthew Cowley setting apart native Maoris as missionaries during World War II.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kevinf: I&#8217;m not sure what the Priesthood timeline is for the South Seas islanders, but I believe it predates the 50&#8242;s.</p>
<p>My grandfather served his mission in New Zealand from 1947-1949. He wrote about several native Maoris in New Zealand as &#8220;elders,&#8221; and one in particular who served as a district president. At the time he served, New Zealand had 15 districts with 75 branches, which I am certain could not have sustained by missionaries alone. He also writes of Elder Matthew Cowley setting apart native Maoris as missionaries during World War II.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184605</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurine Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a friend in the late 1950s who&#039;s parents would not accept her marriage to an oriental man, in fact, the state of Utah wouldn&#039;t give them a license to marry either, so they went to Nevada.

I also had a hispanic friend whose fiance&#039;s father wouldn&#039;t come to their wedding because of her nationality. Today we are astounded at such feelings, but they were very real back then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a friend in the late 1950s who&#8217;s parents would not accept her marriage to an oriental man, in fact, the state of Utah wouldn&#8217;t give them a license to marry either, so they went to Nevada.</p>
<p>I also had a hispanic friend whose fiance&#8217;s father wouldn&#8217;t come to their wedding because of her nationality. Today we are astounded at such feelings, but they were very real back then.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184586</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Michelle, it&#039;s a sad day in Mudville -- this *was* published in the Improvement Era.

Thanks for your interest in reading this, whether you always read the serials or whether my tease was especially enticing. As kevinf points out, reading something like this in the context of a history-themed blog can be quite different from reading it in, say, an anthology of Mormon literature. We can talk about it as the story develops -- what it says about who we were, and how stories like this may have affected our grandparents (was the story shaped entirely by how Latter-day Saints of that generation already felt, or might it have helped to shape and harden attitudes that were only generally understood?).  Anyway, fasten your seatbelts for a turbulent sea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Michelle, it&#8217;s a sad day in Mudville &#8212; this *was* published in the Improvement Era.</p>
<p>Thanks for your interest in reading this, whether you always read the serials or whether my tease was especially enticing. As kevinf points out, reading something like this in the context of a history-themed blog can be quite different from reading it in, say, an anthology of Mormon literature. We can talk about it as the story develops &#8212; what it says about who we were, and how stories like this may have affected our grandparents (was the story shaped entirely by how Latter-day Saints of that generation already felt, or might it have helped to shape and harden attitudes that were only generally understood?).  Anyway, fasten your seatbelts for a turbulent sea.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Glauser</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184578</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Glauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess all I can say is that I&#039;m glad it wasn&#039;t printed in The Improvement Era. Am I right there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess all I can say is that I&#8217;m glad it wasn&#8217;t printed in The Improvement Era. Am I right there?</p>
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		<title>By: E. Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/01/09/expatriation-chapter-1-of-8/comment-page-1/#comment-184564</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ HokieKate - Yeah, I loved how everyone was like, &quot;Oh, well NATURALLY he sent a private investigator!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ HokieKate &#8211; Yeah, I loved how everyone was like, &#8220;Oh, well NATURALLY he sent a private investigator!&#8221;</p>
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