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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The machine was called an Ironrite&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-158299</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@The Other Clark: I double-dog dare you to post that over on Times and Seasons or FMH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The Other Clark: I double-dog dare you to post that over on Times and Seasons or FMH!</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-158072</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My grandmother had an Ironrite, and she passed it on to my mother when her children left home, so I grew up with one in the 1980s and &#039;90s.  It had a nice hardwood cabinet, so it looked like a sideboard when closed.  And it did a much better job, much more easily, than a flat iron.

As to the generation gap, it&#039;s interesting how my grandmothers ironed sheets and underwear,  my mom ironed only shirts and tablecloths, and my wife won&#039;t iron anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandmother had an Ironrite, and she passed it on to my mother when her children left home, so I grew up with one in the 1980s and &#8217;90s.  It had a nice hardwood cabinet, so it looked like a sideboard when closed.  And it did a much better job, much more easily, than a flat iron.</p>
<p>As to the generation gap, it&#8217;s interesting how my grandmothers ironed sheets and underwear,  my mom ironed only shirts and tablecloths, and my wife won&#8217;t iron anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-157955</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to enjoy using our Ironrite in the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s, and don&#039;t remember getting a pinch or a burn. My mother taught her children to use it when we were about seven or eight, and had us even iron bedsheets and pillow cases. We got so that we could do a long-sleeved shirt in a few moments. Getting into bed between smooth, newly ironed sheets felt great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to enjoy using our Ironrite in the 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s, and don&#8217;t remember getting a pinch or a burn. My mother taught her children to use it when we were about seven or eight, and had us even iron bedsheets and pillow cases. We got so that we could do a long-sleeved shirt in a few moments. Getting into bed between smooth, newly ironed sheets felt great.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-157932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad several of you have mentioned having no problem with the illustration -- don&#039;t I keep saying that Keepa&#039;ninnies are the best and brightest? -- but other people *have* misunderstood and found fault with the illustration. IIRC, this post was drafted while the 2006 talk was &lt;a href=&quot;http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2011/08/response-to-alison-part-ii/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;under discussion here&lt;/a&gt;, beginning with comment #4 -- and that isn&#039;t the first time I&#039;ve read commentary faulting Elder Christofferson&#039;s father for not simply ironing his own shirts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad several of you have mentioned having no problem with the illustration &#8212; don&#8217;t I keep saying that Keepa&#8217;ninnies are the best and brightest? &#8212; but other people *have* misunderstood and found fault with the illustration. IIRC, this post was drafted while the 2006 talk was <a href="http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2011/08/response-to-alison-part-ii/" rel="nofollow">under discussion here</a>, beginning with comment #4 &#8212; and that isn&#8217;t the first time I&#8217;ve read commentary faulting Elder Christofferson&#8217;s father for not simply ironing his own shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-157924</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to have a deal with my wife.  She wouldn&#039;t bother me about watching Monday Night Football (it came on at 9:00 here, after the children were in bed), if I would spend the time ironing my shirts.  

As to pinching fingers with a mangle--that&#039;s nothing compared to the burns!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have a deal with my wife.  She wouldn&#8217;t bother me about watching Monday Night Football (it came on at 9:00 here, after the children were in bed), if I would spend the time ironing my shirts.  </p>
<p>As to pinching fingers with a mangle&#8211;that&#8217;s nothing compared to the burns!</p>
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		<title>By: Stew</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-157911</link>
		<dc:creator>Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Matt. I was 21 when that story was shared and what I took away was that men are willing to sacrifice for their wives and children. This example resonated with me and made me want to be that type of husband when I got married.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Matt. I was 21 when that story was shared and what I took away was that men are willing to sacrifice for their wives and children. This example resonated with me and made me want to be that type of husband when I got married.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with #11 re: Elder C&#039;s talk: I understood father had sacrificed for something that mother had appreciated.  In that willingness to sacrifice was the man.

As for mangles -- they are still in use in professional laundries.  My daughters have both operated the mangle at BYU laundry during their time working there (though they had to tell me what a mangle was...and I still didn&#039;t connect it to the Ironrite story...)

My mother ironed my father&#039;s shirts and folded them neatly for his dresser drawer and suitcase (he travelled quite a bit for his work).  Early in our marriage it became clear if I was going to have ironed shirts, I would do it myself.  Over time, we&#039;ve moved to taking the shirts to the cleaners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with #11 re: Elder C&#8217;s talk: I understood father had sacrificed for something that mother had appreciated.  In that willingness to sacrifice was the man.</p>
<p>As for mangles &#8212; they are still in use in professional laundries.  My daughters have both operated the mangle at BYU laundry during their time working there (though they had to tell me what a mangle was&#8230;and I still didn&#8217;t connect it to the Ironrite story&#8230;)</p>
<p>My mother ironed my father&#8217;s shirts and folded them neatly for his dresser drawer and suitcase (he travelled quite a bit for his work).  Early in our marriage it became clear if I was going to have ironed shirts, I would do it myself.  Over time, we&#8217;ve moved to taking the shirts to the cleaners.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Pellett</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-157897</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Pellett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I can think of are the numerous pinched fingers.  I suppose its at least better than having to negotiate a hot piece of metal in a fire.

Who decided on the name &quot;mangle&quot; anyway?  Couldn&#039;t they have picked a name that didn&#039;t sound like it was going to hurt to use?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can think of are the numerous pinched fingers.  I suppose its at least better than having to negotiate a hot piece of metal in a fire.</p>
<p>Who decided on the name &#8220;mangle&#8221; anyway?  Couldn&#8217;t they have picked a name that didn&#8217;t sound like it was going to hurt to use?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-157892</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t see teenage boys/20-something young men getting hung up on the women-work vs. men-work aspect of Elder Christofferson&#039;s example. Overall I thought that the point of the story was well-taken: his father was willing to sacrifice months of lunches to provide a service for his wife. At least he didn&#039;t ask her to make his lunch on top of all the ironing!

I also remember my grandmother ironing all of her sheets, tablecloths, napkins, etc. Amazing to think about in retrospect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see teenage boys/20-something young men getting hung up on the women-work vs. men-work aspect of Elder Christofferson&#8217;s example. Overall I thought that the point of the story was well-taken: his father was willing to sacrifice months of lunches to provide a service for his wife. At least he didn&#8217;t ask her to make his lunch on top of all the ironing!</p>
<p>I also remember my grandmother ironing all of her sheets, tablecloths, napkins, etc. Amazing to think about in retrospect.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/11/17/the-machine-was-called-an-ironrite/comment-page-1/#comment-157876</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kevinf, my first ironing chores were pillowcases, and my father&#039;s handkerchiefs. It was a real promotion when I progressed to my brothers&#039; school shirts, or at least the pockets, plackets and collars (my mother continued to do the sleeves and fronts/backs for a long time after I started learning). Different fabrics, different tools, different expectations -- a different world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kevinf, my first ironing chores were pillowcases, and my father&#8217;s handkerchiefs. It was a real promotion when I progressed to my brothers&#8217; school shirts, or at least the pockets, plackets and collars (my mother continued to do the sleeves and fronts/backs for a long time after I started learning). Different fabrics, different tools, different expectations &#8212; a different world.</p>
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