Comments on: I Have More Questions, 1892

By: kevinf

kevinf — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:23:52 +0000

Was the Patriarch, who “exhibited more zeal than discretion” while ordaining the five month old to be an elder, also the same person refusing to pass the sacrament to the unbaptized 12 year old in Sunday School?

As to the likelihood of encountering “prowling Indians or wild beasts” on the way to church in Utah County these days, I’ll just say in my best accent, “Y”all are crazy!” (ie, less zeal, more discretion, please).

By: Mark B.

Mark B. — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:45:38 +0000

Interesting. Thanks for that addition, J. Stapley. And I suppose that it was done without interviews, high council approval or sustaining vote in a stake conference.

By: J. Stapley

J. Stapley — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:05:11 +0000

Child (and infant) ordination was not uncommon, even among high church leaders in the decades before Cannon’s comments.

By: Carol

Carol — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:01:29 +0000

“Pronounce their words with the best accent”? Would that be a Utah accent? Or a correct accent?

You bet. Anything else would be ignernt.

By: Bruce Crow

Bruce Crow — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:23:51 +0000

You just got to love GQC.

By: Mark B.

Mark B. — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:04:44 +0000

Yeah, that gun in the home is a great comfort for the undertaker, who knows that the likelihood of dying in by accident or suicide is substantially higher for people with the gun on the nightstand.

And what cities? Provo? Laverkin?

By: The Other Clark

The Other Clark — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:29:56 +0000

Yeah, the response to the gun question would certainly raise some eyebrows if it were read over the pulpit in my Utah county ward.

Otherwise, it’s remarkable how little the spirit of the Gospel has changed. I think the “let it slide lest one give offense” has been taken to heart by bishops in many testimony meetings.

The response to the infant Melchizedek Priesthood ordination issue is interesting, because we do teach that it’s an ordinance necessary for salvation (and is done by proxy in the temple) but not for infants BIC. Maybe because of the idea that their parents will raise them in the Millennium and they’ll be ordained then?

By: Cliff

Cliff — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:28:11 +0000

A St. George accent, of course, so Praise the Lard and pass the Carn! Sorry, I could not resist. My mother and grandmother had those “accents” with those particular words!

“It may still be necessary in some parts of our country. But for men to go armed with deadly weapons while at home and following ordinary pursuits is dangerous,…” He obviously, had not been gifted with a vision of our days at the time he spoke this, especially in some parts of some cities of our country, where a gun in the home would be of great comfort to those who sleep.

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:01:58 +0000

Durn. I’ll have to take the gun rack off my buggy.

By: -MMM-

-MMM- — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:33:36 +0000

Interesting how times have changed. In the question about renewing baptismal covenants, the idea of the sacrament was never even mentioned. Nowadays, with the exception of excommunication, the sacrament is THE way to renew covenants.

“Pronounce their words with the best accent”? Would that be a Utah accent? Or a correct accent?