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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-142141</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, for many, it isn&#039;t a question of their morals, it is their desire to foist their beliefs and what derives from those beliefs off on others.

One can believe in honesty, integrity, service to others, etc. and express those traits in your day-to-day dealings.

But, when you try to say that your beliefs dictate the role of women in the workplace or how others live their day-to-day lives, that crosses a line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, for many, it isn&#8217;t a question of their morals, it is their desire to foist their beliefs and what derives from those beliefs off on others.</p>
<p>One can believe in honesty, integrity, service to others, etc. and express those traits in your day-to-day dealings.</p>
<p>But, when you try to say that your beliefs dictate the role of women in the workplace or how others live their day-to-day lives, that crosses a line.</p>
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		<title>By: Tertium Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-142116</link>
		<dc:creator>Tertium Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The blurring of religious beliefs and secular action can be scary.&quot;

And why should that be?  Are they really such separate spheres?  Sounds like Daryl may have got it wrong, but I&#039;d like for people to make their morals a greater part of their public and economic activities, not less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The blurring of religious beliefs and secular action can be scary.&#8221;</p>
<p>And why should that be?  Are they really such separate spheres?  Sounds like Daryl may have got it wrong, but I&#8217;d like for people to make their morals a greater part of their public and economic activities, not less.</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-142113</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Daryl’s integrity led him to consider all leaders — or at least those he was concerned with — as ...called and sustained, not hired or elected... so that failure to honor them was equivalent to fighting against God&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This has been a very thought provoking post for me.  I&#039;ve been able to keep my testimony much safer since i mentally began distinguishing between church employees and priesthood leaders.  I&#039;ve heard horror stories, though, of more than a few &quot;Daryl&#039;s&quot; working in the CES and COB.

Don&#039;t these guys realize that the Lord said &quot;no power can be maintained [solely] by virtue of the priesthood?&quot;  It sounds like all the other necessary attributes ennumerated in D&amp;C121 were completely lost on this guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Daryl’s integrity led him to consider all leaders — or at least those he was concerned with — as &#8230;called and sustained, not hired or elected&#8230; so that failure to honor them was equivalent to fighting against God</p></blockquote>
<p>This has been a very thought provoking post for me.  I&#8217;ve been able to keep my testimony much safer since i mentally began distinguishing between church employees and priesthood leaders.  I&#8217;ve heard horror stories, though, of more than a few &#8220;Daryl&#8217;s&#8221; working in the CES and COB.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t these guys realize that the Lord said &#8220;no power can be maintained [solely] by virtue of the priesthood?&#8221;  It sounds like all the other necessary attributes ennumerated in D&amp;C121 were completely lost on this guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-142099</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The blurring of religious beliefs and secular action can be scary.

I&#039;m aware of some LDS folks in my town who have become firmly convinced that the Apocalypse is unfolding as we speak (the latest was that WWIII was to be launched in the next couple weeks).

Some of these folks have sold businesses, laying off employees.  Most have turned their homes into bunkers.  Stockpiled food, fuel and guns.

But, that nuttiness is not enough.  No. They are taking an idiotic book by Cleon Skousen around trying to convert folks to their views.  The book is entitled &quot;Cleansing America&quot; and it predicts a massive plague will wipe out 90% of the folks in the U.S.

If you reject their proselytizing, they react angrily and indicate you will be one who will die in the plague and its aftermath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blurring of religious beliefs and secular action can be scary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware of some LDS folks in my town who have become firmly convinced that the Apocalypse is unfolding as we speak (the latest was that WWIII was to be launched in the next couple weeks).</p>
<p>Some of these folks have sold businesses, laying off employees.  Most have turned their homes into bunkers.  Stockpiled food, fuel and guns.</p>
<p>But, that nuttiness is not enough.  No. They are taking an idiotic book by Cleon Skousen around trying to convert folks to their views.  The book is entitled &#8220;Cleansing America&#8221; and it predicts a massive plague will wipe out 90% of the folks in the U.S.</p>
<p>If you reject their proselytizing, they react angrily and indicate you will be one who will die in the plague and its aftermath.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-142077</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve come across a blogger or two, and a few more blog-commenters who I think are along the lines of Daryl.

I&#039;ve met a couple Daryl&#039;s in real life (ie, off the &#039;net).  If they marry a sufficiently timid and pliable woman with low self-esteem, they can stay married for a while, but not in the long run.

And looking back with older eyes, I think that when I was a District Leader as a missionary, I probably had some similarities to Daryl.

(And here&#039;s hoping you&#039;ve changed his name.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come across a blogger or two, and a few more blog-commenters who I think are along the lines of Daryl.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met a couple Daryl&#8217;s in real life (ie, off the &#8216;net).  If they marry a sufficiently timid and pliable woman with low self-esteem, they can stay married for a while, but not in the long run.</p>
<p>And looking back with older eyes, I think that when I was a District Leader as a missionary, I probably had some similarities to Daryl.</p>
<p>(And here&#8217;s hoping you&#8217;ve changed his name.)</p>
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		<title>By: Vader</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-141585</link>
		<dc:creator>Vader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been fairly fortunate in my experiences with fellow Mormons in the workplace. However, this does remind me of the brother Saint who approached me about a &quot;technical consulting opportunity&quot;, got me to let him meet with me in my home, and turned out to be recruiting for Amway. When he tried the line about my priesthood duty to make greater wealth with which to do good, I invited him to leave. Insisted, actually.

This confusion of spheres of life reminds me of how Leviticus uses &quot;confusion&quot; to describe incest and bestiality. I also vaguely recall being taught by Wilford Griggs that the etymology of &quot;pornography&quot; had its roots in this concept of confusion. Unfortunately, I can&#039;t confirm that right now because my NetNanny won&#039;t let me search on the word &quot;pornography.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been fairly fortunate in my experiences with fellow Mormons in the workplace. However, this does remind me of the brother Saint who approached me about a &#8220;technical consulting opportunity&#8221;, got me to let him meet with me in my home, and turned out to be recruiting for Amway. When he tried the line about my priesthood duty to make greater wealth with which to do good, I invited him to leave. Insisted, actually.</p>
<p>This confusion of spheres of life reminds me of how Leviticus uses &#8220;confusion&#8221; to describe incest and bestiality. I also vaguely recall being taught by Wilford Griggs that the etymology of &#8220;pornography&#8221; had its roots in this concept of confusion. Unfortunately, I can&#8217;t confirm that right now because my NetNanny won&#8217;t let me search on the word &#8220;pornography.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-141573</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At first, I thought you might have something positive to say about Daryl&#039;s view of integrity, ie that you are the same person at work that you are at home, which actually makes some sense.  But Daryl obviously went way overboard, except the integrity FAIL relating to his work attire.  Did he go to church wearing pajama bottoms and flip flops?  I think not.  Petty, worthless, tyrant behavior.

This story reminds me somewhat of a troubled relationship one of my kids had with their landlord at Ricks about 12 years ago.  He insisted that since he was in the bishopric of the student ward my daughter attended, that he be called &quot;Bro. Landlord&quot; all week long.  I pointed out to her that the two relationships were different, and while on Sunday and at church activities, he could be Bro. Landlord, but the rest of the time he was Mr. Landlord, often Mr. Slum Landlord.  It helped my daughter and her roommates a lot, as his behavior towards them certainly reflected a huge difference between the two roles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first, I thought you might have something positive to say about Daryl&#8217;s view of integrity, ie that you are the same person at work that you are at home, which actually makes some sense.  But Daryl obviously went way overboard, except the integrity FAIL relating to his work attire.  Did he go to church wearing pajama bottoms and flip flops?  I think not.  Petty, worthless, tyrant behavior.</p>
<p>This story reminds me somewhat of a troubled relationship one of my kids had with their landlord at Ricks about 12 years ago.  He insisted that since he was in the bishopric of the student ward my daughter attended, that he be called &#8220;Bro. Landlord&#8221; all week long.  I pointed out to her that the two relationships were different, and while on Sunday and at church activities, he could be Bro. Landlord, but the rest of the time he was Mr. Landlord, often Mr. Slum Landlord.  It helped my daughter and her roommates a lot, as his behavior towards them certainly reflected a huge difference between the two roles.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew h</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-141504</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;Daryl&#039;s&quot; of the Church make me wonder when Joseph Smith&#039;s teaching of &quot;I teach them correct principles and they govern themselves&quot; turned into &quot;I teach them correct principles and micro-manage them into the ground.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Daryl&#8217;s&#8221; of the Church make me wonder when Joseph Smith&#8217;s teaching of &#8220;I teach them correct principles and they govern themselves&#8221; turned into &#8220;I teach them correct principles and micro-manage them into the ground.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: andrew h</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-141500</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well, he works for the Church, so he should probably know&quot;

- Dang!  His staff meetings must be far better than the ones I go to.  All we talk about are budgets and running our operation.  We missed out on the date of the Second Coming Memo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, he works for the Church, so he should probably know&#8221;</p>
<p>- Dang!  His staff meetings must be far better than the ones I go to.  All we talk about are budgets and running our operation.  We missed out on the date of the Second Coming Memo.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/10/27/daryls-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-141333</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It reminds me of the only Mormon I&#039;ve ever worked with since law school--thankfully I wasn&#039;t his employee--who always talked about how good things had come to his business as an answer to prayer.  I could never figure out how lousy service and overinflated fees were consistent with answers to prayers.

When his testimonials provoked demurrals from me, I suspect he just thought I was weak in the faith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It reminds me of the only Mormon I&#8217;ve ever worked with since law school&#8211;thankfully I wasn&#8217;t his employee&#8211;who always talked about how good things had come to his business as an answer to prayer.  I could never figure out how lousy service and overinflated fees were consistent with answers to prayers.</p>
<p>When his testimonials provoked demurrals from me, I suspect he just thought I was weak in the faith.</p>
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