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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/09/06/latter-day-saint-images-1936/comment-page-1/#comment-86733</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 03:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks again, Steve. I should just leave all those questions to you and avoid looking two-thirds uninformed!

I&#039;ve actually put together quite a number of these photo posts already, waiting in Keepa&#039;s draft queue (there are so many posts in that queue that I could be dead a year before anybody noticed). A second 1936 post has another picture from this conference, Steve, which is probably the same one you&#039;ve described from the Church News. It all must have been as interesting to church members in 1936 as it is to us, since they used the same material in both publications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again, Steve. I should just leave all those questions to you and avoid looking two-thirds uninformed!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually put together quite a number of these photo posts already, waiting in Keepa&#8217;s draft queue (there are so many posts in that queue that I could be dead a year before anybody noticed). A second 1936 post has another picture from this conference, Steve, which is probably the same one you&#8217;ve described from the Church News. It all must have been as interesting to church members in 1936 as it is to us, since they used the same material in both publications.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve C.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/09/06/latter-day-saint-images-1936/comment-page-1/#comment-86732</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 03:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[President Uchtdorf was born in 1940.  His family did not join the Church until after World War II.  He would have missed all the fun of the 1936 youth conference. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Uchtdorf was born in 1940.  His family did not join the Church until after World War II.  He would have missed all the fun of the 1936 youth conference. <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/09/06/latter-day-saint-images-1936/comment-page-1/#comment-86723</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 02:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe instead of a random Missionary Home group in a post like this, Bruce, I should throw up some posts that show all the groups for a couple of months at a time, with all the names. They&#039;d be so much alike that they wouldn&#039;t be terribly interesting to most people, but if someone found a familiar name and face it would be worth it.

Frank, Pres. Uchtdorf was still a young child at the end of the war. He told a story in Conference once about refugeeing with his mother and siblings on a train -- his mother went to look for food or something, they moved the train, she came back and couldn&#039;t immediately find her children, and all that. So this would be too early for him. Still, I know what you mean -- it would be fun to know that someone prominent now appeared in a picture long before we knew who he was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe instead of a random Missionary Home group in a post like this, Bruce, I should throw up some posts that show all the groups for a couple of months at a time, with all the names. They&#8217;d be so much alike that they wouldn&#8217;t be terribly interesting to most people, but if someone found a familiar name and face it would be worth it.</p>
<p>Frank, Pres. Uchtdorf was still a young child at the end of the war. He told a story in Conference once about refugeeing with his mother and siblings on a train &#8212; his mother went to look for food or something, they moved the train, she came back and couldn&#8217;t immediately find her children, and all that. So this would be too early for him. Still, I know what you mean &#8212; it would be fun to know that someone prominent now appeared in a picture long before we knew who he was.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Pellett</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/09/06/latter-day-saint-images-1936/comment-page-1/#comment-86718</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Pellett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 02:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No idea on how the dates match up, but is Pres Uchdorf old enough to have attended the MIA?  Maybe his parents?  I recall the story of his family having to move from East to West Germany, but I&#039;ve no idea of the dates of any of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No idea on how the dates match up, but is Pres Uchdorf old enough to have attended the MIA?  Maybe his parents?  I recall the story of his family having to move from East to West Germany, but I&#8217;ve no idea of the dates of any of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing I can add about the first photo, so I wont even try.

But I will say thatI love seeing the missionary/MTC photos, with the names!!! Everytime you post one I scan for names I might have run into elsewhere. None this time, but I appreciate your putting it online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing I can add about the first photo, so I wont even try.</p>
<p>But I will say thatI love seeing the missionary/MTC photos, with the names!!! Everytime you post one I scan for names I might have run into elsewhere. None this time, but I appreciate your putting it online.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve C.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/09/06/latter-day-saint-images-1936/comment-page-1/#comment-86687</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Church News article, there was a second picture of the banquet that was held at the conference as well.  The second picture draws a little attention away from the flag in the first.  Also, the CN article did not mention anything political.  Again, minimizing the flag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Church News article, there was a second picture of the banquet that was held at the conference as well.  The second picture draws a little attention away from the flag in the first.  Also, the CN article did not mention anything political.  Again, minimizing the flag.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/09/06/latter-day-saint-images-1936/comment-page-1/#comment-86686</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Steve. I scanned this from an &lt;em&gt;Improvement Era,&lt;/em&gt; one item on a page of short newsy clips without much detail. You da man with da knowledge!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve. I scanned this from an <em>Improvement Era,</em> one item on a page of short newsy clips without much detail. You da man with da knowledge!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve C.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/09/06/latter-day-saint-images-1936/comment-page-1/#comment-86679</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife&#039;s family was from Kidderminster, England but had emigrated to the United States in the 1840s.

I’m not sure where Ardis got the picture of the Berlin MIA convention, but the photo was used in a &lt;em&gt;Church News&lt;/em&gt; article entitled “Germany Holds M.I.A. ‘Echo of Joy’ Festival,” published 18 July 1936.  The MIA conference was held from Saturday, 30 May to Monday, 1 June 1936.  The conference was held, according to the &lt;em&gt;Church News&lt;/em&gt;, “in one of Berlin’s most prominent assembly halls.”  At the time, the Church owned only one building in Germany.  It rented meeting halls throughout the country.  In the photo are President Joseph F. Merrill of the European mission and President Roy A. Welker of the German-Austrian mission as well as their wives.  The event was like a typical youth conference with a Gold and Green ball, a testimony meeting, and several other inspirational sessions.  Presidents Merrill and Welker were the keynote speakers at the Sunday session.  

This particular conference was well attended and considered by mission officials to be very successful.  With the 1936 Olympic games spotlighting Germany, Nazi officials were more tolerant of all religions which, I think, contributed to the success of this youth conference.  From the tone of the article, it seems that Church authorities were impressed that they could hold the conference in a “prominent” meeting hall—an indication that the Church was accepted in Germany.

As for the National Socialist flag displayed, it was probably part of the “established décor” as Ardis puts it.  I’m sure that Church authorities were not going to push the issue of the flag.  If fact, it was not uncommon for meetings to be held in rented halls with Nazi flags in the background.  Remember, this was Nazi Germany.  In 1937 the &lt;em&gt;Church News&lt;/em&gt; published a photo of President Heber J. Grant attending a meeting in Frankfurt.  Behind him was a large swastika flag.  While such photos are a bit jarring, at the time the Nazi flag did not carry quite the same sinister or evil connotations as it does now (we now know the evil nature of the Third Reich which they did not know in 1936).   I get the impression that at the time, &lt;em&gt;CN&lt;/em&gt; editors included the flag in its publications as a devise to emphasize where the event took place and the international nature of the Church.  The problem is that the same picture could be misinterpreted as Church support for the Party/ideology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife&#8217;s family was from Kidderminster, England but had emigrated to the United States in the 1840s.</p>
<p>I’m not sure where Ardis got the picture of the Berlin MIA convention, but the photo was used in a <em>Church News</em> article entitled “Germany Holds M.I.A. ‘Echo of Joy’ Festival,” published 18 July 1936.  The MIA conference was held from Saturday, 30 May to Monday, 1 June 1936.  The conference was held, according to the <em>Church News</em>, “in one of Berlin’s most prominent assembly halls.”  At the time, the Church owned only one building in Germany.  It rented meeting halls throughout the country.  In the photo are President Joseph F. Merrill of the European mission and President Roy A. Welker of the German-Austrian mission as well as their wives.  The event was like a typical youth conference with a Gold and Green ball, a testimony meeting, and several other inspirational sessions.  Presidents Merrill and Welker were the keynote speakers at the Sunday session.  </p>
<p>This particular conference was well attended and considered by mission officials to be very successful.  With the 1936 Olympic games spotlighting Germany, Nazi officials were more tolerant of all religions which, I think, contributed to the success of this youth conference.  From the tone of the article, it seems that Church authorities were impressed that they could hold the conference in a “prominent” meeting hall—an indication that the Church was accepted in Germany.</p>
<p>As for the National Socialist flag displayed, it was probably part of the “established décor” as Ardis puts it.  I’m sure that Church authorities were not going to push the issue of the flag.  If fact, it was not uncommon for meetings to be held in rented halls with Nazi flags in the background.  Remember, this was Nazi Germany.  In 1937 the <em>Church News</em> published a photo of President Heber J. Grant attending a meeting in Frankfurt.  Behind him was a large swastika flag.  While such photos are a bit jarring, at the time the Nazi flag did not carry quite the same sinister or evil connotations as it does now (we now know the evil nature of the Third Reich which they did not know in 1936).   I get the impression that at the time, <em>CN</em> editors included the flag in its publications as a devise to emphasize where the event took place and the international nature of the Church.  The problem is that the same picture could be misinterpreted as Church support for the Party/ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Other Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this series!

Regarding the first pic, I think that by 1936, the swastika was the national flag (not political party) which might explain its presence.

In the Oakland, Pa. pic, the gentleman on the right bears an uncanny resemblance to a young J. Reuben Clark.

The Wilshire Ward pops up quite often in this series.  I wonder if it&#039;s because LeGrand Richards lived there, or if there was another connection with the church magazines, or if I just have a selective memory.

I can&#039;t imagine getting food for that Norway banquet.  I also can&#039;t imagine any kind of ward event that requires stemware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this series!</p>
<p>Regarding the first pic, I think that by 1936, the swastika was the national flag (not political party) which might explain its presence.</p>
<p>In the Oakland, Pa. pic, the gentleman on the right bears an uncanny resemblance to a young J. Reuben Clark.</p>
<p>The Wilshire Ward pops up quite often in this series.  I wonder if it&#8217;s because LeGrand Richards lived there, or if there was another connection with the church magazines, or if I just have a selective memory.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine getting food for that Norway banquet.  I also can&#8217;t imagine any kind of ward event that requires stemware.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne (UK)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne (UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been on that Ferry! Well, hopefully not the same ferry, but it&#039;s a cool ferry journey as it takes 20 minutes and you sail past Hamlet&#039;s castle. 

The Kidderminster photo- am willing to guess who the missionaries are; you can always tell, especially back in those days :-)

As for the Berlin photo- eeewwww. Interesting though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on that Ferry! Well, hopefully not the same ferry, but it&#8217;s a cool ferry journey as it takes 20 minutes and you sail past Hamlet&#8217;s castle. </p>
<p>The Kidderminster photo- am willing to guess who the missionaries are; you can always tell, especially back in those days <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for the Berlin photo- eeewwww. Interesting though.</p>
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