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		<title>By: Anne (UK)</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/08/31/i-have-even-more-questions-1890/comment-page-1/#comment-85629</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne (UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, thanks for that link. I gurgled a lot whilst reading it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, thanks for that link. I gurgled a lot whilst reading it!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/08/31/i-have-even-more-questions-1890/comment-page-1/#comment-85417</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unlike all the other commentators on golf broadcasts, who are reverential in their descriptions of the players and the game, and who &quot;mourn with those that mourn&quot; when a shot goes astray, Johnny is famous for saying that players hit a bad shot or had bad judgment or just plain blew it--I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s ever said someone &quot;choked&quot; but it must have come close to his lips on occasion.

Here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/20/sports/golf/20sandomir.html?ref=johnnymiller&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;typical piece&lt;/a&gt; about Miller from the NY Times, describing his commentary on Phil Mickelson&#039;s disastrous finish at the 2006 U.S. Open--&quot;the Simon Cowell of golf criticism&quot; indeed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike all the other commentators on golf broadcasts, who are reverential in their descriptions of the players and the game, and who &#8220;mourn with those that mourn&#8221; when a shot goes astray, Johnny is famous for saying that players hit a bad shot or had bad judgment or just plain blew it&#8211;I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s ever said someone &#8220;choked&#8221; but it must have come close to his lips on occasion.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/20/sports/golf/20sandomir.html?ref=johnnymiller" rel="nofollow">typical piece</a> about Miller from the NY Times, describing his commentary on Phil Mickelson&#8217;s disastrous finish at the 2006 U.S. Open&#8211;&#8221;the Simon Cowell of golf criticism&#8221; indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne (UK)</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/08/31/i-have-even-more-questions-1890/comment-page-1/#comment-85407</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne (UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ooooh Mark, what&#039;s he been saying? Sounds intriguing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooooh Mark, what&#8217;s he been saying? Sounds intriguing!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/08/31/i-have-even-more-questions-1890/comment-page-1/#comment-85404</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about Sister Miller&#039;s anatomy lesson, but her husband was a heckuva golfer for a couple of years back then.

On the other hand, maybe she should give Johnny some counsel on the heat of the comments that come out of his mouth when he&#039;s on TV during golf tournaments.  Isn&#039;t there something in holy writ, vaguely recalled in my old age, about things (even really hot things) that come out of a man being more dangerous to the soul than things that go in?  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about Sister Miller&#8217;s anatomy lesson, but her husband was a heckuva golfer for a couple of years back then.</p>
<p>On the other hand, maybe she should give Johnny some counsel on the heat of the comments that come out of his mouth when he&#8217;s on TV during golf tournaments.  Isn&#8217;t there something in holy writ, vaguely recalled in my old age, about things (even really hot things) that come out of a man being more dangerous to the soul than things that go in?  <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anne (UK)</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/08/31/i-have-even-more-questions-1890/comment-page-1/#comment-85400</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne (UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weeeeeelllllll, believe it or not, when I was investigating (1977) and we were doing the Word Of Wisdom discussion, the sisters taught me that drinking ANY very hot drink was a violation of the WOW. They had recently had a fireside with Johnny Miller&#039;s wife and she too had advanced this theory with them. So they explained to me that not only should I henceforth stop drinking tea (which I loved) and coffee (so-so), I should also make sure that my hot drinks/soups in future were not scalding hot. One sister helpfully added that she always added some cold water to her cup/bowl before tucking in. So of course, that&#039;s what I did too. And still do, with hot choc,but soup I just leave a while.

One sister said that Sister Miller explained to them that scalding drinks burned the little hairs in the throat which left the body less resistant to disease, and that is why the WOW should be observed in this stringent fashion. &#039;There is scientific proof behind it&#039;, she said. Or maybe that&#039;s one of those things we don&#039;t talk about..... :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeeeeelllllll, believe it or not, when I was investigating (1977) and we were doing the Word Of Wisdom discussion, the sisters taught me that drinking ANY very hot drink was a violation of the WOW. They had recently had a fireside with Johnny Miller&#8217;s wife and she too had advanced this theory with them. So they explained to me that not only should I henceforth stop drinking tea (which I loved) and coffee (so-so), I should also make sure that my hot drinks/soups in future were not scalding hot. One sister helpfully added that she always added some cold water to her cup/bowl before tucking in. So of course, that&#8217;s what I did too. And still do, with hot choc,but soup I just leave a while.</p>
<p>One sister said that Sister Miller explained to them that scalding drinks burned the little hairs in the throat which left the body less resistant to disease, and that is why the WOW should be observed in this stringent fashion. &#8216;There is scientific proof behind it&#8217;, she said. Or maybe that&#8217;s one of those things we don&#8217;t talk about&#8230;.. <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, perhaps more pointedly, what people &lt;em&gt;said&lt;/em&gt; Joseph said (including the often questionable TOPJS) can be used to back just about any theory...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, perhaps more pointedly, what people <em>said</em> Joseph said (including the often questionable TOPJS) can be used to back just about any theory&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Other Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of these answers are so straightforward, and others go so far out on a limb!

To amplify Ardis&#039; response on Joseph Smith and geography, I&#039;m surprised the FARMS brochure didn&#039;t include the reference from &quot;Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith&quot; (p. 267) which includes this phrase &quot;and that Lehi went down by the Red Sea to the great Southern Ocean, and crossed over to this land, and landed a little south of the Isthmus of Darien [Panama]...&quot;  OTOH, he also claimed that Zion&#039;s Camp marched across &quot;the plains of the Nephites&quot; and even gave the history of one Zelph to skeleton they found. In short, Joseph Smith can be used to back just about any pet geography theory you have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these answers are so straightforward, and others go so far out on a limb!</p>
<p>To amplify Ardis&#8217; response on Joseph Smith and geography, I&#8217;m surprised the FARMS brochure didn&#8217;t include the reference from &#8220;Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith&#8221; (p. 267) which includes this phrase &#8220;and that Lehi went down by the Red Sea to the great Southern Ocean, and crossed over to this land, and landed a little south of the Isthmus of Darien [Panama]&#8230;&#8221;  OTOH, he also claimed that Zion&#8217;s Camp marched across &#8220;the plains of the Nephites&#8221; and even gave the history of one Zelph to skeleton they found. In short, Joseph Smith can be used to back just about any pet geography theory you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh WOW, I did not know that I was breaking it while serving on my mission where HOT water was served as a sign that it was purified for consumption in a land where many diseases were transmitted through the regular pipes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh WOW, I did not know that I was breaking it while serving on my mission where HOT water was served as a sign that it was purified for consumption in a land where many diseases were transmitted through the regular pipes!</p>
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		<title>By: ji</title>
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		<dc:creator>ji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds like warm cocoa is okay to the &lt;i&gt;Juvenile Instructor&lt;/i&gt; editor, just not &quot;very hot&quot; or &quot;scalding hot&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like warm cocoa is okay to the <i>Juvenile Instructor</i> editor, just not &#8220;very hot&#8221; or &#8220;scalding hot&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/08/31/i-have-even-more-questions-1890/comment-page-1/#comment-85384</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every once in  a while I worry about these Questions and other things I post here -- what if someone lands here as the result of a Google search, or otherwise misses the point of many Keepa postings? I&#039;d hate to be responsible for misleading someone as to LDS doctrine or practice. These comments by you regulars, though, leave no doubt that YOU, at least, understand why I post them, that they&#039;re curious artifacts of another age of Mormonism, but that details may not be current practice, or may never have represented more than one person&#039;s idiosyncratic view. That&#039;s reassuring, anyway.

I&#039;ve read the Valparaiso bit a lot in late 19th and early 20th century writings. It had to have been almost universally taught then. &lt;a href=&quot;http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=71&amp;chapid=781&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This chapter&lt;/a&gt; from an old FARMS publication explains where that idea came from and how it came to be linked to Joseph Smith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every once in  a while I worry about these Questions and other things I post here &#8212; what if someone lands here as the result of a Google search, or otherwise misses the point of many Keepa postings? I&#8217;d hate to be responsible for misleading someone as to LDS doctrine or practice. These comments by you regulars, though, leave no doubt that YOU, at least, understand why I post them, that they&#8217;re curious artifacts of another age of Mormonism, but that details may not be current practice, or may never have represented more than one person&#8217;s idiosyncratic view. That&#8217;s reassuring, anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the Valparaiso bit a lot in late 19th and early 20th century writings. It had to have been almost universally taught then. <a href="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=71&#038;chapid=781" rel="nofollow">This chapter</a> from an old FARMS publication explains where that idea came from and how it came to be linked to Joseph Smith.</p>
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