Comments on: In Our Ward: Lesson 21: “What Is the Sign of Thy Coming?” http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/ Where our past is never very long ago Mon, 20 May 2013 20:48:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Ellen http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-72970 Ellen Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:19:01 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-72970 Finally, I’ve had time to read this with the attention it deserves. My favorite thing about your lessons is how you stick to the intent of the lesson while still investing it with so much depth.

It isn’t a new spin on the same old same old. It’s content that should come with lessons that can be accurately taught from a very simple, uncomplicated point on the spectrum all the way to many underlayers of comprehension. you cover the whole spectrum.

I’m kind of sad that we’ve caught up to you so I can’t read your lessons ahead of time and go to class sounding like I’ve got things all figured out. :-)

]]> By: Maurine Ward http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-72021 Maurine Ward Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:08:43 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-72021 David, my husband and I also hang out in the Gospel Principles class. There is more worthwhile discussion and teaching there than in the GD class. At first I used the excuse that I went into that class because I was the Relief Society president and needed to be there with my less active sisters. But, then we just kept going.

]]> By: David Tayman http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-71807 David Tayman Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:43:10 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-71807 My last Ward, I hung out in Gospel Principles. Mainly because I was the Ward Mission Leader, but also because there was less crazytalk, and it was also easier for me to change the course of conversation.

I think I may be doing that in this ward, too. *sigh*

]]> By: Alison http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-71795 Alison Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:41:47 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-71795 Very thought-provoking, Ardis. Our ward’s class was also well-taught and the teacher stated at the outset that he didn’t want to focus on the signs themselves, which most present knew pretty well off by heart anyway; rather, he wanted to see how we could apply the warnings to beware of false prophets etc. much as you did.
As for experiencing bad teaching/speaking, I have been known to vote with my feet…not so productive, but at least I haven’t had to listen to a speaker drone on in lurid detail about their former drug habit.

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-71687 Ardis E. Parshall Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:01:38 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-71687 Wow. Ouch.

I’ve complained quietly to home and visiting teachers about the quality of teaching from time to time. I don’t bother much anymore because the standard answer is that I need to raise my hand and steer the discussion in a more fruitful direction. I don’t know how, as a class member. As a teacher, yes, but not as a class member.

]]> By: David Tayman http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-71685 David Tayman Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:37:34 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-71685 Our class devolved, basically, into explaining how left-wing politics are the spiritual calamities that were foreseen. It was somewhat horrifying.

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-71663 Ardis E. Parshall Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:19:50 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-71663 Thanks, Téa and Steve (and get well, Téa).

The lesson went pretty well, although we could have used twice the time — I finally had to limit participation to two comments per question/subject because discussion was so lively and so many people wanted to tell their slight variations on the same themes. Nobody announced any weird belief or any false idea drawn from the wider Christian world, which was a relief to me. I did have one person challenge me on my suggestion that natural disasters had not increased, if you looked at them over periods of time longer than this year vs. last year, using Elder Oaks’ April 2004 address — I wished I had had a copy with me, because he doesn’t really claim that the pace of natural disasters has picked up (he cites lists of natural disasters compiled by the World Almanac showing a “sharp increase,” but rather dilutes that by concluding “Increases by comparison with 50 years ago can be dismissed as changes in reporting criteria, but the accelerating pattern of natural disasters in the last few decades is ominous.”)

We ended with a better example than anything I could come up with. One class member told about surviving a plane crash, and remembering what a fellow passenger had said, that each of us needs to be prepared for a plane crash at any moment.

]]> By: Steve http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-71654 Steve Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:07:52 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-71654 Ardis. –

Very impressive. What I really liked was the nuance and complexity illustrated.

When this was taught in my ward, it turned into Japanese earthquake + tornadoes = apocalypse.

]]> By: Téa http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/06/12/in-our-ward-lesson-21-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-the-sign-of-thy-coming%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-71646 Téa Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:36:44 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=12638#comment-71646 It’s very refreshing to read a lesson well-taught, especially on a day when I’m not feeling well enough to go to my own building.

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