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	<title>Comments on: Anne Maria Jewkes: &#8220;My Father Has Called Me Away&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew Lockhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Lockhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anne Maria is my great aunt, too. My great, great grandfather is her brother, Alma Gardner Jewkes. My mother is a Jewkes, born in Orangeville. Thanks for this very interesting story. I am proud of my Jewkes heritage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Maria is my great aunt, too. My great, great grandfather is her brother, Alma Gardner Jewkes. My mother is a Jewkes, born in Orangeville. Thanks for this very interesting story. I am proud of my Jewkes heritage.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Joseph Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Joseph Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, this young lady Anne Marie Jewkes was my great aunt. My grandfather was Joseph Hyrum Jewkes son of Samuel and Mary Nash Jewkes. Samuel and his wife are buried in Orangeville in a Jewkes plot with some of his children buried around him, and my Father and Mother are next to him. I am the current Mayor of Orangeville, and there are still a lot of his posterity here. This is of quite an interest to me because I was completely unaware of this young lady.  My grandfather Joseph lived with us, when I was young and he passed away in our home, and oh what a great love I had for him. I&#039;m sure since I didn&#039;t know my great grandfather Samuel, my grandfather possessed many of his attributes. I have felt like I should have known him. He came to Utah with one of the handcart companies. I am very thankful for my posterity and the sacrifices they made so that we could have the comforts and peace that we enjoy today. I now live on the property that he owned in Orangeville.  Thanks for the bit of information that has made my day. 
Pat Jones]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this young lady Anne Marie Jewkes was my great aunt. My grandfather was Joseph Hyrum Jewkes son of Samuel and Mary Nash Jewkes. Samuel and his wife are buried in Orangeville in a Jewkes plot with some of his children buried around him, and my Father and Mother are next to him. I am the current Mayor of Orangeville, and there are still a lot of his posterity here. This is of quite an interest to me because I was completely unaware of this young lady.  My grandfather Joseph lived with us, when I was young and he passed away in our home, and oh what a great love I had for him. I&#8217;m sure since I didn&#8217;t know my great grandfather Samuel, my grandfather possessed many of his attributes. I have felt like I should have known him. He came to Utah with one of the handcart companies. I am very thankful for my posterity and the sacrifices they made so that we could have the comforts and peace that we enjoy today. I now live on the property that he owned in Orangeville.  Thanks for the bit of information that has made my day.<br />
Pat Jones</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s proprietary -- it&#039;s my work product for the past 12 years of transcribing 19th and 20th century holographic materials in the church archives, and nobody-but-nobody else has anything quite like it. As long as you could identify a particular text string (I couldn&#039;t really search for &quot;any verb followed by any preposition&quot;), I could pull out the date, name of writer, and the context sentence, and perhaps tell you something about the writer&#039;s origins.

Anyway, keep it in mind as a resource for future projects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s proprietary &#8212; it&#8217;s my work product for the past 12 years of transcribing 19th and 20th century holographic materials in the church archives, and nobody-but-nobody else has anything quite like it. As long as you could identify a particular text string (I couldn&#8217;t really search for &#8220;any verb followed by any preposition&#8221;), I could pull out the date, name of writer, and the context sentence, and perhaps tell you something about the writer&#8217;s origins.</p>
<p>Anyway, keep it in mind as a resource for future projects.</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ardis (#25): Fascinating! Is this an easily accesible corpus, or is it proprietary? Either way, i wouldn&#8217;t be able to get started working on it until after this summer, but i&#8217;m going to have to put this on the list of projects on my whiteboard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ardis (#25): Fascinating! Is this an easily accesible corpus, or is it proprietary? Either way, i wouldn&rsquo;t be able to get started working on it until after this summer, but i&rsquo;m going to have to put this on the list of projects on my whiteboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Tertium Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tertium Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure thing!

It also sounds like Samuel applied the discipline he learned in the military to music:

&quot;Samuel was a perfectionist, and he drilled each part separately over and over. Not until a number was thoroughly learned was it ever attempted in public.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure thing!</p>
<p>It also sounds like Samuel applied the discipline he learned in the military to music:</p>
<p>&#8220;Samuel was a perfectionist, and he drilled each part separately over and over. Not until a number was thoroughly learned was it ever attempted in public.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Tertium. While also giving us a great introduction to Samuel, for purposes of this post reading between the lines gives a glimpse of the kind of life and activities that surrounded Anne: a large family, hard-working, willing to engage in many different kinds of tasks (both gritty hard labor and the refinements of music), cooperative amongst themselves, responsive to church requests. Anne saw all that, and would have been an active part of it, probably, had she lived a little longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tertium. While also giving us a great introduction to Samuel, for purposes of this post reading between the lines gives a glimpse of the kind of life and activities that surrounded Anne: a large family, hard-working, willing to engage in many different kinds of tasks (both gritty hard labor and the refinements of music), cooperative amongst themselves, responsive to church requests. Anne saw all that, and would have been an active part of it, probably, had she lived a little longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tertium Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tertium Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a biographical abstract on the life of Samuel Jewkes.  Sorry for not providing a better source; it is rather cryptically identified in my records as &quot;Emery County&quot;. Presumably the county history.

Samuel Jewkes, steel maker, soldier, saw and grist mill operator, and musician of early Sanpete County and pioneer of Castle Valley, was born in Tipton in Staffordshire, England on 23 Mar 1823.  He was the son of William and Jane Woodward Jewkes of Dudley, Worchestershire, England.  Tipton and Dudley are both suburbs of the huge industrial city of Birmingham.
Samuel&#039;s early training was in the field of engineering and his work experience was in the iron works and heavy industry of Birmingham. (In his history of his father, Alma Gardner Jewkes Sr., states, &quot;When Samuel was six years old he commenced working in a coal mine picking up the small lumps that fell of the cars.  This was his first job experience.&quot;)  In the mid 1840&#039;s, England was exporting its technology to other countries, and so it was that Samuel, his young wife Sarah, and baby daughter arrived in Mount Savage, Maryland, the place where the first steel rails for the emerging railroad industry were made in the US.
Other children were born to Sarah and Samuel in Mount Savage and later in Norristown, Pennsylvania and Cincinnati, Ohio.  None of these children survived past three years of age.  The cruelest blow fell when Sarah died in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1850.  She was 34 years old.
While engaged in business with his old friend Elias Morris in St. Louis, Missouri, Samuel married Sophia Lewis on 11 May 1851 and she and her 10 year old son John Lewis (Jewkes) came to Utah and settled in Salt Lake City.  Mary Gardner (Adams) and her mother, Mary Nash Adams, were also on their way to Utah from St. Louis.  Sophia introducted Samuel to Mary there, and then a year later when Mary and her mother arrived in the valley, Sophia invited her to join their family.  They were all sealed together by Brigham Young on 4 Jun 1855.
With the threat of Johnson&#039;s Army marching towards Utah, Samuel, because of his training and experience in the Iron works of Birmingham England and the Steel Industry in Ameica was called with the others to the Iron Mission in Cedar City.  It was 1857 when he moved his family until the threat from the army had subsized.  Samuel had previously served with the US Army (where we assume he met the Mormons) in the Mexican War and later in the Blackhawk war as a Lieutenant.  His army records also show him listed as a musician.
Samuel moved his family from Cedar City to Moroni, Sanpete County, and then later to Fountain Green where he had purchased two farms and acquired other property.  Together with James Boswell he purchased a saw mill and a grist mill northwest of Fountain Green.  The mills were built together to make better use of the same water power.  Logs once hauled from nearby canyons - one called Jewkes Canyon - to be sawed into lumber for construction of pioneer homes in the area.  Joseph Hyrum Jewkes, a son, has written, &quot;we had a fine outfit in Fountain Green for shoeing our oxen, consisting of a pen or frame of about ten inch square lumber (10x10) and being about six feet square with a beam overhead for hoisting the oxen.  A wide belt extended under the animal&#039;s body and a windlass was used for lifting him up so that he could not kick while being shod.  We would place one foot of the ox on a block, remove the old shoe, if not already gone, and tack on a new one.&quot;
It was at Fountain Green that Samuel&#039;s musical talent became useful.  He organized and and directed one of the first choirs in the Utah territory in 1862.  The Fountain Green Choir was known throughout the state for its fine performances.  Samuel was a perfectionist, and he drilled each part separately over and over.  Not until a number was thoroughly learned was it ever attempted in public.  Samuel could sing any part himself and was able to fill in wherever he was needed.  The choir sang a capella at first because there was not organ or piano in the area.  Samuel had the local blacksmith make him a tuning fork with which he set the key for some time.
Samuel R., eldest son of Samuel Jewkes, was band leader in Fountain Green for many years.  Like his father, he took great pride in his music.  He often wrote the score down and arranged all the parts for their numbers until printed music became available to them.
In 1876, during the Indian Wars, Samuel, in company with his future son-in-law, James A. Guymon, accompanied several other Sanpete men to Castle Valley, going as far as the settlement on the Green River.  They were chasing Indians who had stolen horses.  They traveled up Spanish Fork Canyon to Soldier Summit, thence through Emma Park and down Soldier&#039;s Canyon to Green River.  On the return trip they crossed Castle Valley then went southwest on Cottonwood Creek (about Orangeville) and came over the mountain to Manti.  When the call came to settle Castle Valley Samuel had already made up his mind to move there.  When the call came to send families, the Bishop of the Fountain Green Ward called first on those families who were already planning the move.  Samuel and all his families were the first to be called from Fountain Green.
After living in Fountain Green for 17 years it was difficult to pull up stakes and move to another unsettled valley, but again the pioneer spirit proved equal to the task.  Samuel settled about 2 miles west of present Orangeville, again building a saw mill and grist mill, and obtaining the best farm machinery around in the way of a threshing machine and a gang plow.
Samuel was never very enthusiastic about politics, concerning himself mainly with farming and the milling business.  However, he was appointed by the Governor of the territory as the first Judge in Emery County.
The first winter in Castle Valley was a disastrous one for Samuel Jewkes and Sons.  They had taken part payment for their land and possessions in Fountain Green in cattle and oxen.  In the extremely cold winter they lost nearly 200 of the cattle almost the entire herd - and out of twelve yoke of oxen only two yoke survived.  Through hard work and perseverance they were able to recover from this loss and the family prospered.  Many of the descendants of Samuel still live in Castle Valley.
Samuel Jewkes died 23 Aug 1900 at Orangeville.  For many years the anniversary of his death was the occasion for a family reunion.  He was survived by his two wives and eight of his children.
These are the children of Samuel Jewkes and Sophia Lewis Jewkes:
John Lewis Jewkes, son of Sophia, was born 14 Dec 1840 at Dover Kent, Houham Parish, England; Samuel Richard Jewkes, born 22 Aug 1853 at Salt Lake City, Utah; William Henry Jewkes, born 28 May 1857, at Cedar City, Utah, and Sophia Jane Jewkes (married Orson Miles) born 9 Jul 1861 at Moroni, Utah.
These are the children of Samuel Jewkes and Mary Gardner (Nash) Adams Jewkes:
Alma Gardner Jewkes born 12 Jun 1858 at Cedar City, Utah; Benjamin Franklin Jewkes born 13 Sep 1861 at Moroni, Utah; Mary Eliza (Polly) Jewkes (married James Alma Guymon) born 14 Jan 1864; Ann Maria Jewkes born 18 Sep 1866 (died in 1874); Joseph Hyrum Jewkes born 6 Apr 1869; and Jesse David Jewkes born 11 Jun 1871.  Mary&#039;s last four children were all born at Fountain Green, Utah.
In Dec 1979, the Utah State Division of Parks and Recreation purchased one of the homes of Samuel Jewkes and removed it to the Pioneer Trail State Park near the This is the Place Monument at Salt Lake City.  The home was restored and placed in the Old Deseret Village being recreated there as a typical Utah Village of the 1847-1869 period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a biographical abstract on the life of Samuel Jewkes.  Sorry for not providing a better source; it is rather cryptically identified in my records as &#8220;Emery County&#8221;. Presumably the county history.</p>
<p>Samuel Jewkes, steel maker, soldier, saw and grist mill operator, and musician of early Sanpete County and pioneer of Castle Valley, was born in Tipton in Staffordshire, England on 23 Mar 1823.  He was the son of William and Jane Woodward Jewkes of Dudley, Worchestershire, England.  Tipton and Dudley are both suburbs of the huge industrial city of Birmingham.<br />
Samuel&#8217;s early training was in the field of engineering and his work experience was in the iron works and heavy industry of Birmingham. (In his history of his father, Alma Gardner Jewkes Sr., states, &#8220;When Samuel was six years old he commenced working in a coal mine picking up the small lumps that fell of the cars.  This was his first job experience.&#8221;)  In the mid 1840&#8242;s, England was exporting its technology to other countries, and so it was that Samuel, his young wife Sarah, and baby daughter arrived in Mount Savage, Maryland, the place where the first steel rails for the emerging railroad industry were made in the US.<br />
Other children were born to Sarah and Samuel in Mount Savage and later in Norristown, Pennsylvania and Cincinnati, Ohio.  None of these children survived past three years of age.  The cruelest blow fell when Sarah died in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1850.  She was 34 years old.<br />
While engaged in business with his old friend Elias Morris in St. Louis, Missouri, Samuel married Sophia Lewis on 11 May 1851 and she and her 10 year old son John Lewis (Jewkes) came to Utah and settled in Salt Lake City.  Mary Gardner (Adams) and her mother, Mary Nash Adams, were also on their way to Utah from St. Louis.  Sophia introducted Samuel to Mary there, and then a year later when Mary and her mother arrived in the valley, Sophia invited her to join their family.  They were all sealed together by Brigham Young on 4 Jun 1855.<br />
With the threat of Johnson&#8217;s Army marching towards Utah, Samuel, because of his training and experience in the Iron works of Birmingham England and the Steel Industry in Ameica was called with the others to the Iron Mission in Cedar City.  It was 1857 when he moved his family until the threat from the army had subsized.  Samuel had previously served with the US Army (where we assume he met the Mormons) in the Mexican War and later in the Blackhawk war as a Lieutenant.  His army records also show him listed as a musician.<br />
Samuel moved his family from Cedar City to Moroni, Sanpete County, and then later to Fountain Green where he had purchased two farms and acquired other property.  Together with James Boswell he purchased a saw mill and a grist mill northwest of Fountain Green.  The mills were built together to make better use of the same water power.  Logs once hauled from nearby canyons &#8211; one called Jewkes Canyon &#8211; to be sawed into lumber for construction of pioneer homes in the area.  Joseph Hyrum Jewkes, a son, has written, &#8220;we had a fine outfit in Fountain Green for shoeing our oxen, consisting of a pen or frame of about ten inch square lumber (10&#215;10) and being about six feet square with a beam overhead for hoisting the oxen.  A wide belt extended under the animal&#8217;s body and a windlass was used for lifting him up so that he could not kick while being shod.  We would place one foot of the ox on a block, remove the old shoe, if not already gone, and tack on a new one.&#8221;<br />
It was at Fountain Green that Samuel&#8217;s musical talent became useful.  He organized and and directed one of the first choirs in the Utah territory in 1862.  The Fountain Green Choir was known throughout the state for its fine performances.  Samuel was a perfectionist, and he drilled each part separately over and over.  Not until a number was thoroughly learned was it ever attempted in public.  Samuel could sing any part himself and was able to fill in wherever he was needed.  The choir sang a capella at first because there was not organ or piano in the area.  Samuel had the local blacksmith make him a tuning fork with which he set the key for some time.<br />
Samuel R., eldest son of Samuel Jewkes, was band leader in Fountain Green for many years.  Like his father, he took great pride in his music.  He often wrote the score down and arranged all the parts for their numbers until printed music became available to them.<br />
In 1876, during the Indian Wars, Samuel, in company with his future son-in-law, James A. Guymon, accompanied several other Sanpete men to Castle Valley, going as far as the settlement on the Green River.  They were chasing Indians who had stolen horses.  They traveled up Spanish Fork Canyon to Soldier Summit, thence through Emma Park and down Soldier&#8217;s Canyon to Green River.  On the return trip they crossed Castle Valley then went southwest on Cottonwood Creek (about Orangeville) and came over the mountain to Manti.  When the call came to settle Castle Valley Samuel had already made up his mind to move there.  When the call came to send families, the Bishop of the Fountain Green Ward called first on those families who were already planning the move.  Samuel and all his families were the first to be called from Fountain Green.<br />
After living in Fountain Green for 17 years it was difficult to pull up stakes and move to another unsettled valley, but again the pioneer spirit proved equal to the task.  Samuel settled about 2 miles west of present Orangeville, again building a saw mill and grist mill, and obtaining the best farm machinery around in the way of a threshing machine and a gang plow.<br />
Samuel was never very enthusiastic about politics, concerning himself mainly with farming and the milling business.  However, he was appointed by the Governor of the territory as the first Judge in Emery County.<br />
The first winter in Castle Valley was a disastrous one for Samuel Jewkes and Sons.  They had taken part payment for their land and possessions in Fountain Green in cattle and oxen.  In the extremely cold winter they lost nearly 200 of the cattle almost the entire herd &#8211; and out of twelve yoke of oxen only two yoke survived.  Through hard work and perseverance they were able to recover from this loss and the family prospered.  Many of the descendants of Samuel still live in Castle Valley.<br />
Samuel Jewkes died 23 Aug 1900 at Orangeville.  For many years the anniversary of his death was the occasion for a family reunion.  He was survived by his two wives and eight of his children.<br />
These are the children of Samuel Jewkes and Sophia Lewis Jewkes:<br />
John Lewis Jewkes, son of Sophia, was born 14 Dec 1840 at Dover Kent, Houham Parish, England; Samuel Richard Jewkes, born 22 Aug 1853 at Salt Lake City, Utah; William Henry Jewkes, born 28 May 1857, at Cedar City, Utah, and Sophia Jane Jewkes (married Orson Miles) born 9 Jul 1861 at Moroni, Utah.<br />
These are the children of Samuel Jewkes and Mary Gardner (Nash) Adams Jewkes:<br />
Alma Gardner Jewkes born 12 Jun 1858 at Cedar City, Utah; Benjamin Franklin Jewkes born 13 Sep 1861 at Moroni, Utah; Mary Eliza (Polly) Jewkes (married James Alma Guymon) born 14 Jan 1864; Ann Maria Jewkes born 18 Sep 1866 (died in 1874); Joseph Hyrum Jewkes born 6 Apr 1869; and Jesse David Jewkes born 11 Jun 1871.  Mary&#8217;s last four children were all born at Fountain Green, Utah.<br />
In Dec 1979, the Utah State Division of Parks and Recreation purchased one of the homes of Samuel Jewkes and removed it to the Pioneer Trail State Park near the This is the Place Monument at Salt Lake City.  The home was restored and placed in the Old Deseret Village being recreated there as a typical Utah Village of the 1847-1869 period.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, I just ran a quick search of 500 pages of letters written by mostly-Utah Mormons to Brigham Young in 1857 and found 14 instances of this use of &quot;for to&quot; (plus a few other cases where the words appeared together but were not  -- what did you call them? complementizers?) If you do want to make some kind of study drawing on 19th century Mormon English, I could easily and quickly search my thousands of pages of 19th century Mormon docs to extract examples. If you don&#039;t already have a better, easier source, that is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I just ran a quick search of 500 pages of letters written by mostly-Utah Mormons to Brigham Young in 1857 and found 14 instances of this use of &#8220;for to&#8221; (plus a few other cases where the words appeared together but were not  &#8212; what did you call them? complementizers?) If you do want to make some kind of study drawing on 19th century Mormon English, I could easily and quickly search my thousands of pages of 19th century Mormon docs to extract examples. If you don&#8217;t already have a better, easier source, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, &#8220;for to&#8221; exists in present-day English, and occurs in North America as well as Britain, particularly in Southern American and African American Englishes (though it&#8217;s not necessarily as widespread as it once was)—consider the lyrics to &#8220;Oh! Susanna&#8221; (&lt;i&gt;…my true love for to see…&lt;/i&gt;), which was an explicit attempt to write &#8220;black&#8221;-sounding lyrics.

What caught my eye was that this was in a Utahn context, which made me wonder if it ever really existed &lt;b&gt;there&lt;/b&gt;—and since i&#8217;ve already published some on the form of 19th-century Utah English (though the phonetics of it, not the syntax), it&#8217;s making me think i need to go poking around old texts and recordings again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, &ldquo;for to&rdquo; exists in present-day English, and occurs in North America as well as Britain, particularly in Southern American and African American Englishes (though it&rsquo;s not necessarily as widespread as it once was)—consider the lyrics to &ldquo;Oh! Susanna&rdquo; (<i>…my true love for to see…</i>), which was an explicit attempt to write &ldquo;black&rdquo;-sounding lyrics.</p>
<p>What caught my eye was that this was in a Utahn context, which made me wonder if it ever really existed <b>there</b>—and since i&rsquo;ve already published some on the form of 19th-century Utah English (though the phonetics of it, not the syntax), it&rsquo;s making me think i need to go poking around old texts and recordings again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For to&quot; is a legitimate use in older British English. I&#039;ve seen it before.  However, I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s use in the epitaph is according to the traditional use.  It&#039;s use in that example could have been an inappropriate affectation to sound more formal. I don&#039;t see anything ungrammatical in the first 4 lines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For to&#8221; is a legitimate use in older British English. I&#8217;ve seen it before.  However, I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s use in the epitaph is according to the traditional use.  It&#8217;s use in that example could have been an inappropriate affectation to sound more formal. I don&#8217;t see anything ungrammatical in the first 4 lines.</p>
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