Comments on: “Doing God a Service to Kill Us” http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/ Where our past is never very long ago Sat, 25 May 2013 06:15:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Ziff http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-52156 Ziff Sun, 13 Mar 2011 05:18:44 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-52156 Fascinating, Ardis! Thanks so much for sharing not only your conclusion, but the long and windy road you took to get there. I admire your persistence!

]]> By: Mark http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-52025 Mark Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:37:15 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-52025 In addition to google web search, I have found google book search to be a wealth of fascinating finds. George Q. Cannon, in a discourse delivered July 15, 1883 as recorded in Journal of Discourses was quoted as saying this, but there are earlier references to the phrase by non-lds authors in the same google book search, including The life of the Rev. George Whitefield, Volume 1 published in 1877 but referencing material from 1739!

]]> By: Steve C. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51934 Steve C. Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:02:50 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51934 Enjoyed. As I read this I thought of how many urban legends get started by someone paraphrasing or quoting another’s paraphrase. How many times in Priesthood/RS do you hear “quotes” from JS or BY or someone else that were adapted to get a certain point across.

Thanks for the great work you do.

(Happy belated birthday)

]]> By: Maurine Ward http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51860 Maurine Ward Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:04:48 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51860 Happy Birthday.
When I get to Salt Lake in a couple of weeks, I’ll take you to dinner.

]]> By: michelle http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51851 michelle Fri, 11 Mar 2011 04:31:25 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51851 I was so curious to see where this ended up — so cool that you would find the answer to your question and share it. Fun stuff.

Happy birthday, by the way!

]]> By: Raymond Takashi Swenson http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51820 Raymond Takashi Swenson Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:52:38 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51820 When I read the title of your piece, I assumed you were quoting the passage in the Gospel of John about the persecution to be expected by the disciples of Christ. That was clearly the theme of the efforts by many “establishment” Jews toward Jesus and his followers–including the pre-visionary Saul/Paul, and it played out in the cases of James (son of Zebedee), Stephen, and James (brother of Jesus), as well as the vow that was made by certain Jewish enemies of Paul to murder him in Jerusalem. I would not be surprised at all to hear that any LDS leader, remarking on our own persecutors, had quoted or paraphrased Jesus’ warning–especially one whose own father and uncle were murdered in exactly that way, by self-justifying hypocrites (one of whom was, appropriately enough, later elected to Congress).

]]> By: Moniker Challenged http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51819 Moniker Challenged Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:45:36 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51819 Happy Ardis Day, Ardis! Put sprinkles on your brussels sprouts!

]]> By: WVS http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51817 WVS Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:31:56 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51817 Thanks for the shout out Ardis. We like it when people use it.

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51808 Ardis E. Parshall Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:39:51 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51808 I’ve just corrected the OP to indicate that JFSmith’s talk was given in November (10 November 1901) rather than in the regular October Conference. As Clark noted in #14, Lorenzo Snow had just died. Apparently the new First Presidency called for a special session on 10 November to conduct priesthood business connected with the change in administration, rather than waiting a full six months for the next regularly scheduled general conference of April 1902.

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/10/%e2%80%9cdoing-god-a-service-to-kill-us%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-51800 Ardis E. Parshall Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:33:10 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=11464#comment-51800 Oh, heck, I find what most people do for fun to be too exhausting to think of (skiing?? driving somewhere and parking and going to sit in a crowd to watch a football game or a movie??) — I’m just glad you’re willing to read the reports of my nosing around.

Thanks, Researcher, for asking about the hosting fees. Yeah, it’s getting to be that time again. I appreciate the donations that have come from several of you through the year. They all just sit in that PayPal account where they will help defray Keepa’s expenses in a few weeks. Thanks to those of you who have thought of that. You might not think that $5 is much help, but it really is a great help when added to other donations.

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