Comments on: Questions from the Grass Roots, 1948 (14) http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/ Where our past is never very long ago Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:08:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: kevinf http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51649 kevinf Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:44:45 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51649 I loved this part of the quote on avoiding speculation:

“…to enter the field of speculation and try to make a decision upon a subject about which there is no revelation.”

In historical hindsight, really, really sound advice. We should keep speculation just for who we think the new bishop is going to be in our wards. It’s kind of like making up your brackets for the NCAA basketball tourney, just as long as you aren’t betting any money, right?

]]> By: kevinf http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51648 kevinf Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:39:00 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51648 Re the new handbook as a micromanagement tool: Most of the stuff in there is so that a new bishop (or EQ President, etc) doesn’t need to pick up the phone every five minutes and call his SP for help. It will still happen, of course, but lots of things that were urban legend are spelled out in the most recent version of Handbook 2 where it is there for all members (and non-members) to look at on the web. One of the obvious ones is that women are allowed to say opening prayers in sacrament meeting, regardless of the letter that someone has from his brother in law who was a stake president and got it from his area authority leader. I think it helps to quash the folk doctrines, and end the silly game of “My GA trumps your GA”.

]]> By: KLC http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51641 KLC Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:52:00 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51641 J. it took you two well chosen words to say the same thing I said in a whole paragraph.

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51630 Ardis E. Parshall Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:44:23 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51630 Nope. I like the independent response! ;)

]]> By: J. Stapley http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51628 J. Stapley Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:37:13 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51628 And I should probably refresh before commenting…

]]> By: J. Stapley http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51626 J. Stapley Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:36:00 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51626 Interesting, that is the second question on Grave dedication this year, as I remember (probably due to the recent shift in the ordinance).

Also interesting stats regarding priesthood quorum attendance. Maybe post-war flux?

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51625 Ardis E. Parshall Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:16:17 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51625 I’m impressed that you got the arrows in there, David; I’ve never seen that anywhere before. Can’t wait for an excuse to try that myself.

Do you suppose a noticeable number of deviations like the ones Bookslinger reports is responsible for the notice in the Handbook? (I know a lot of people just find the Handbook a micromanagement-fest; I think, though, that most of those rules are in response to situations that most of us have never run into. It hadn’t occurred to me that anybody would invoke priesthood authority, for instance, to perform a civil wedding ceremony.)

]]> By: David B http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51616 David B Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:47:46 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51616 Assorted reactions:

→Interesting that Mormonism went along with the mainstream-Xianity move toward open communions last century.

→Intriguing that the Manifesto got placed after D&C 132 back then, rather than as an appendix at the end like now.

→I’ve never read Mosiah 18:4 to mean that the Waters of Mormon were named after a king, though it clearly is one possible reading of the text, now that it’s pointed out to me.

→The answer on Hagoth seemed a bit of a tortured (and failed) attempt to thread the needle between the Scylla and Charibdis of “Well, of course!” and “Don’t ever speculate!” </metaphor type=”mixed”>

→The current handbook has fixed wording for civil marriage ceremonies (and a warning not to deviate from it), which means that misstating the authority for one is relatively unlikely these days.

(This comment system allows a lot of HTML, but won’t let me create a bulleted list. Pity.)

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51606 Ardis E. Parshall Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:10:54 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51606 It could well have been partly that, KLC. There was also a serious push then to get people to attend church meetings regularly (for much of our history, those meetings were really kinda optional). But yes, I’ll bet you’re probably right to see it partly as a result of soldiers coming home and everybody wanting to settle into a normal peacetime life again.

]]> By: KLC http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/03/09/questions-from-the-grass-roots-1948-14/comment-page-1/#comment-51604 KLC Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:03:16 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7706#comment-51604 I wonder if that extraordinary 20% increase in Sacrament meeting attendance by holders of the priesthood from 1945-47 is not an indicator of the church moving forward but rather about soldiers returning home from WWII.

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