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	<title>Comments on: “What Shall I Do?”: Paid Employment for Mormon Girls, 1927 &#8212; part 7: The Stenographer</title>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mms Makutsi. 97 percent.


That is all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mms Makutsi. 97 percent.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and I agree that learning all you can about the business you work for is still a key to advancement.  Again, think Hillary Clinton. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I agree that learning all you can about the business you work for is still a key to advancement.  Again, think Hillary Clinton. <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two things:  Yes, there are still a few secretaries out there, but while the PC has really helped boost productivity via word processing, it also eliminated many jobs for stenographers/secretaries.  The other downside is that except for high level (mostly C-level, ie CFO, CIO, COO, etc) executive positions, most middle managers type all their own correspondence, albeit much of it in email, and do more of the work formerly done by stenographers or secretaries in these positions, all because the PC is ubiquitous.  

Also, Hillary Clinton apparently didn&#039;t get the dress code memo in the 80&#039;s, 90&#039;s, or anytime since.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things:  Yes, there are still a few secretaries out there, but while the PC has really helped boost productivity via word processing, it also eliminated many jobs for stenographers/secretaries.  The other downside is that except for high level (mostly C-level, ie CFO, CIO, COO, etc) executive positions, most middle managers type all their own correspondence, albeit much of it in email, and do more of the work formerly done by stenographers or secretaries in these positions, all because the PC is ubiquitous.  </p>
<p>Also, Hillary Clinton apparently didn&#8217;t get the dress code memo in the 80&#8242;s, 90&#8242;s, or anytime since.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that in describing this line of work, the author seems to encourage moving on to something else as quickly as possible. 

I think the advice on how to &quot;move up&quot; the pay scale is still valid in the business world.  (The quietly competent advice in the OP)

On a personal note, my grandmother always wanted to be a career woman and-- after graduating from high school--learned shorthand, typing, and other office skills at Stevens Heneger college in the late 1930s.  An article like this may have been what planted the idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that in describing this line of work, the author seems to encourage moving on to something else as quickly as possible. </p>
<p>I think the advice on how to &#8220;move up&#8221; the pay scale is still valid in the business world.  (The quietly competent advice in the OP)</p>
<p>On a personal note, my grandmother always wanted to be a career woman and&#8211; after graduating from high school&#8211;learned shorthand, typing, and other office skills at Stevens Heneger college in the late 1930s.  An article like this may have been what planted the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s not far off from a secretary&#039;s duties, Carol. Most secretaries have to wait on bosses, clean up after them, amuse them, keep track of their things, arrange their play dates, deal with their temper tantrums, fetch their lunches, &lt;del datetime=&quot;2011-02-28T16:50:47+00:00&quot;&gt;stroke their egos&lt;/del&gt; build their tender self-esteem, warn them if their ties are not straight or their flies zipped before they go out to play ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not far off from a secretary&#8217;s duties, Carol. Most secretaries have to wait on bosses, clean up after them, amuse them, keep track of their things, arrange their play dates, deal with their temper tantrums, fetch their lunches, <del datetime="2011-02-28T16:50:47+00:00">stroke their egos</del> build their tender self-esteem, warn them if their ties are not straight or their flies zipped before they go out to play &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!  &quot;As necessary to business as milk is to babies.&quot;

If you&#039;re not mothering a baby at home, you can mother your boss at work.  Interesting choice of a metaphor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  &#8220;As necessary to business as milk is to babies.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not mothering a baby at home, you can mother your boss at work.  Interesting choice of a metaphor.</p>
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		<title>By: kew</title>
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		<dc:creator>kew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This passage &lt;blockquote&gt;When women first went into business, they thought they must dress as much like men as possible. They wore stiff collars and mannish ties, and hideous suits. They thought they were doing men’s work and must therefore appear masculine. How terribly ugly those outfits were!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
makes me think of the 1980&#039;s. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This passage<br />
<blockquote>When women first went into business, they thought they must dress as much like men as possible. They wore stiff collars and mannish ties, and hideous suits. They thought they were doing men’s work and must therefore appear masculine. How terribly ugly those outfits were!</p></blockquote>
<p>makes me think of the 1980&#8242;s. <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That*is* odd, I agree. It may be because this work is available in so many different fields, but you&#039;d think the starting salary for stenography (what amounts to basically the typing pool, since Mrs. Stewart distinguishes this kind of work from the position of secretary) would be roughly the same in any field.

I like her advice on dress, too, Researcher. There were occasional editorial remarks in the YWJ warning against wearing &quot;party&quot; clothes to the office, which is probably equivalent to Mrs. Stewart&#039;s &quot;frilly.&quot; But I do love the idea that you can be feminine and smart and crisp and be business-appropriate without mimicking a man&#039;s wardrobe. 

When I learned to type, the standard deduction for errors when calculating speed was only 5 wpm, explained as the time necessary to make corrections (in those days we used typewriter erasers with brushes at the end to brush away the eraser crumbs, and often had to correct multiple carbon copies at the same time -- they didn&#039;t even have correcting tape or Wite-Out yet). I wonder if the difference in deduction reflects an improvement in erasure technology, or just a difference in philosophy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That*is* odd, I agree. It may be because this work is available in so many different fields, but you&#8217;d think the starting salary for stenography (what amounts to basically the typing pool, since Mrs. Stewart distinguishes this kind of work from the position of secretary) would be roughly the same in any field.</p>
<p>I like her advice on dress, too, Researcher. There were occasional editorial remarks in the YWJ warning against wearing &#8220;party&#8221; clothes to the office, which is probably equivalent to Mrs. Stewart&#8217;s &#8220;frilly.&#8221; But I do love the idea that you can be feminine and smart and crisp and be business-appropriate without mimicking a man&#8217;s wardrobe. </p>
<p>When I learned to type, the standard deduction for errors when calculating speed was only 5 wpm, explained as the time necessary to make corrections (in those days we used typewriter erasers with brushes at the end to brush away the eraser crumbs, and often had to correct multiple carbon copies at the same time &#8212; they didn&#8217;t even have correcting tape or Wite-Out yet). I wonder if the difference in deduction reflects an improvement in erasure technology, or just a difference in philosophy?</p>
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		<title>By: kew</title>
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		<dc:creator>kew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, but there is no mention of starting salaries. That&#039;s odd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but there is no mention of starting salaries. That&#8217;s odd.</p>
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		<title>By: kew</title>
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		<dc:creator>kew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this one! The emphasis on working your way up and becoming important to your company instead of just waiting for marriage is very encouraging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this one! The emphasis on working your way up and becoming important to your company instead of just waiting for marriage is very encouraging.</p>
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