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	<title>Comments on: Dennis and the Mormon Battalion: Chapter 1</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2011/01/24/dennis-and-the-mormon-battalion-chapter-1/comment-page-1/#comment-44610</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It also appears in the Mennonite hymnal. It was selected for inclusion by a former pastor of a Mennonite congregation along the Mormon Trail in Lee County, Iowa. 

Also, if you visit the museum near Newton, Kansas commemorating the rescue of starving Mennonite immigrants from Russia in 1874-75 (the Mennonite version of the rescue of the Martin-Willie Company), the hymn is used as the theme of the interpretive video. (Or at least that was the case in 2003 when I visited.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also appears in the Mennonite hymnal. It was selected for inclusion by a former pastor of a Mennonite congregation along the Mormon Trail in Lee County, Iowa. </p>
<p>Also, if you visit the museum near Newton, Kansas commemorating the rescue of starving Mennonite immigrants from Russia in 1874-75 (the Mennonite version of the rescue of the Martin-Willie Company), the hymn is used as the theme of the interpretive video. (Or at least that was the case in 2003 when I visited.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool! I&#039;ll link to it, Bruce. I knew vaguely that others sang it (modifying the Mormon-peculiar phrases, like about finding a place &quot;far in the West&quot;), so it will be fun to see what you&#039;ve found.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I&#8217;ll link to it, Bruce. I knew vaguely that others sang it (modifying the Mormon-peculiar phrases, like about finding a place &#8220;far in the West&#8221;), so it will be fun to see what you&#8217;ve found.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently (I have a post on this tomorrow, actually) learned just how widespread &quot;Come Come Ye Saints&quot; became. It is in the hymn books of other churches including the Seventh Day Adventists and the Church of Christ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently (I have a post on this tomorrow, actually) learned just how widespread &#8220;Come Come Ye Saints&#8221; became. It is in the hymn books of other churches including the Seventh Day Adventists and the Church of Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a similar question about the timing and Come, Come Ye Saints, but without the specific knowledge.  Thanks Coffinberry for clearing that up (and, as Ardis says, doing it in a way that doesn&#039;t destroy the fun of the story).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar question about the timing and Come, Come Ye Saints, but without the specific knowledge.  Thanks Coffinberry for clearing that up (and, as Ardis says, doing it in a way that doesn&#8217;t destroy the fun of the story).</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right, Coffinberry.

That&#039;s a dilemma for me. As I&#039;ve typed up these stories (not just &quot;Dennis&quot; but many others that are in the queue), I&#039;ve noticed a lot of this kind of error. Some small part of it may be dramatic license, but most of it, I think, is misunderstanding, simplification, stereotyped views of Mormon history, whatever. 

How should I handle that? A lot of you are just as able to identify those problems as I am -- you&#039;ve just proved that. But other readers may not realize there are historical problems. I don&#039;t want to be tedious (pedantic?) about pointing them all out, and have decided I&#039;ll only say something if I think some error will seriously skew somebody&#039;s view of an important bit of Mormon history.

Otherwise, I&#039;ll leave it to you-all to do just what Coffinberry has done: Note what may not be accurate, and explain why, and in a way -- like this one -- that doesn&#039;t destroy the fun of the stories themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right, Coffinberry.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a dilemma for me. As I&#8217;ve typed up these stories (not just &#8220;Dennis&#8221; but many others that are in the queue), I&#8217;ve noticed a lot of this kind of error. Some small part of it may be dramatic license, but most of it, I think, is misunderstanding, simplification, stereotyped views of Mormon history, whatever. </p>
<p>How should I handle that? A lot of you are just as able to identify those problems as I am &#8212; you&#8217;ve just proved that. But other readers may not realize there are historical problems. I don&#8217;t want to be tedious (pedantic?) about pointing them all out, and have decided I&#8217;ll only say something if I think some error will seriously skew somebody&#8217;s view of an important bit of Mormon history.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I&#8217;ll leave it to you-all to do just what Coffinberry has done: Note what may not be accurate, and explain why, and in a way &#8212; like this one &#8212; that doesn&#8217;t destroy the fun of the stories themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting story. A couple of thoughts:

-- Iowa mud... that I know about. My ancestors hail from Southeast Iowa; the Saints passed through either near or on their land in Lee County on their way westward.

-- Do y&#039;suppose this tale is part of the Centennial of the events spoken of?

-- Nancy dates the events to the year 1846. The raininess (and mud, which suggests eastern Iowa more than western... Lee and Van Buren counties along the Trail are all up and down, up and down into muddy creek bottoms... it flattens out some &#039;long about Davis County) would indicate that the story takes place earlier in 1846 rather than later. If Brother Clayton penned &quot;Come Come Ye Saints&quot; in April 1846, when the Saints had made it nearly half-way across Iowa near Corydon, then that song had to have spread like wildfire to become so popular (and maybe it did) by the time of these events. Not to mention that the Saints seriously weren&#039;t at the Plains yet in 1846, and certainly not while they were encountering the worst of Iowa&#039;s mud. So I think there&#039;s a little retrospective description going on here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting story. A couple of thoughts:</p>
<p>&#8211; Iowa mud&#8230; that I know about. My ancestors hail from Southeast Iowa; the Saints passed through either near or on their land in Lee County on their way westward.</p>
<p>&#8211; Do y&#8217;suppose this tale is part of the Centennial of the events spoken of?</p>
<p>&#8211; Nancy dates the events to the year 1846. The raininess (and mud, which suggests eastern Iowa more than western&#8230; Lee and Van Buren counties along the Trail are all up and down, up and down into muddy creek bottoms&#8230; it flattens out some &#8216;long about Davis County) would indicate that the story takes place earlier in 1846 rather than later. If Brother Clayton penned &#8220;Come Come Ye Saints&#8221; in April 1846, when the Saints had made it nearly half-way across Iowa near Corydon, then that song had to have spread like wildfire to become so popular (and maybe it did) by the time of these events. Not to mention that the Saints seriously weren&#8217;t at the Plains yet in 1846, and certainly not while they were encountering the worst of Iowa&#8217;s mud. So I think there&#8217;s a little retrospective description going on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are 12 installments, ellen. Each one is kinda longish, and each has an illustration.

After the story concluded in the &lt;em&gt;Children&#039;s Friend&lt;/em&gt;, the author published this as a standalone book. Maybe that&#039;s an indication of a better-than-usual story from the magazines.

Enjoy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 12 installments, ellen. Each one is kinda longish, and each has an illustration.</p>
<p>After the story concluded in the <em>Children&#8217;s Friend</em>, the author published this as a standalone book. Maybe that&#8217;s an indication of a better-than-usual story from the magazines.</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This one is going to be good. How many installments, Ardis? I need to pace myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is going to be good. How many installments, Ardis? I need to pace myself.</p>
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