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	<title>Comments on: Lace Stockings</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: SilverRain</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/19/lace-stockings/comment-page-1/#comment-33204</link>
		<dc:creator>SilverRain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know that she did feel superior to the others because of her choices. I had the impression that she just had the downside of the greener grass on the other side illustrated for her.

For me, as a working mother forced by circumstances, living a choice I would not have made voluntarily, it is easy for me to envy those who have actually chosen one or the other. I imagine it is similar for those who would have chosen career, but chose motherhood or who would have chosen motherhood, but whose circumstances in life or bodies have betrayed them.

But the truth is that it has little to do with what path you choose, and everything to do with what you hold as valuable.

If you value possessions over family relationships, you are putting your value in that which &quot;moth and rust doth corrupt&quot; and not in the things that have eternal value. That goes equally for those who value family only as symbols of &quot;doing the right thing&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that she did feel superior to the others because of her choices. I had the impression that she just had the downside of the greener grass on the other side illustrated for her.</p>
<p>For me, as a working mother forced by circumstances, living a choice I would not have made voluntarily, it is easy for me to envy those who have actually chosen one or the other. I imagine it is similar for those who would have chosen career, but chose motherhood or who would have chosen motherhood, but whose circumstances in life or bodies have betrayed them.</p>
<p>But the truth is that it has little to do with what path you choose, and everything to do with what you hold as valuable.</p>
<p>If you value possessions over family relationships, you are putting your value in that which &#8220;moth and rust doth corrupt&#8221; and not in the things that have eternal value. That goes equally for those who value family only as symbols of &#8220;doing the right thing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/19/lace-stockings/comment-page-1/#comment-33146</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha! Pieplant and lawn skirts! If you didn&#039;t know those terms, what colorful mental images they would conjure up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Pieplant and lawn skirts! If you didn&#8217;t know those terms, what colorful mental images they would conjure up!</p>
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		<title>By: Moniker Challenged</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/19/lace-stockings/comment-page-1/#comment-33141</link>
		<dc:creator>Moniker Challenged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why robots are so important--then all of us can be worldly jezebels with lily white hands!  Good point about the details of day-to-day living though.  That&#039;s one of my favorite parts of reading things like the Little House on the Prairie books.    &#039;course the internet has proved an essential companion in these pursuits.  I remember being frustrated as a kid wondering about pieplant and lawn skirts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why robots are so important&#8211;then all of us can be worldly jezebels with lily white hands!  Good point about the details of day-to-day living though.  That&#8217;s one of my favorite parts of reading things like the Little House on the Prairie books.    &#8216;course the internet has proved an essential companion in these pursuits.  I remember being frustrated as a kid wondering about pieplant and lawn skirts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/19/lace-stockings/comment-page-1/#comment-32922</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;d better skip 2/3 of the stories I&#039;m going to post from the &lt;em&gt;Relief Society Magazine&lt;/em&gt;, Moniker! :D  This is a theme so recurrent that it is either wearisome or funny, depending on your bent. 

What I like about these stories as I type them up, repetitive as they are, and as lacking in literary merit as many of them are, is what the authors say about their world without being aware that they&#039;re saying it. Look at the details of laundry in this one, for instance -- Ellen turns her washer off to answer the phone; her hands are wet, her hands are reddened, both from doing her laundry. The labor involved in doing laundry in the 1930s, even from these few hints at one part of the process, is amazing, yet Ellen and the women reading the story wouldn&#039;t even have noticed. These details are not included to make a point, but only to set a very familiar stage. 

No wonder housekeeping was a full-time occupation, even in a day of electricity and gas and technical advancements over the washboard and tub and heating your water on a coal stove! No wonder &quot;worldly&quot; occupations for women seemed so glamorous -- Ellen&#039;s three school friends weren&#039;t just sharing smart conversation, they were free of the daily world of laborious housekeeping necessities. 

In other words, I think &quot;be happy with what we&#039;ve got&quot; means something different for us today than it would have meant in 1937, and I like thinkin&#039; &#039;bout it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d better skip 2/3 of the stories I&#8217;m going to post from the <em>Relief Society Magazine</em>, Moniker! <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   This is a theme so recurrent that it is either wearisome or funny, depending on your bent. </p>
<p>What I like about these stories as I type them up, repetitive as they are, and as lacking in literary merit as many of them are, is what the authors say about their world without being aware that they&#8217;re saying it. Look at the details of laundry in this one, for instance &#8212; Ellen turns her washer off to answer the phone; her hands are wet, her hands are reddened, both from doing her laundry. The labor involved in doing laundry in the 1930s, even from these few hints at one part of the process, is amazing, yet Ellen and the women reading the story wouldn&#8217;t even have noticed. These details are not included to make a point, but only to set a very familiar stage. </p>
<p>No wonder housekeeping was a full-time occupation, even in a day of electricity and gas and technical advancements over the washboard and tub and heating your water on a coal stove! No wonder &#8220;worldly&#8221; occupations for women seemed so glamorous &#8212; Ellen&#8217;s three school friends weren&#8217;t just sharing smart conversation, they were free of the daily world of laborious housekeeping necessities. </p>
<p>In other words, I think &#8220;be happy with what we&#8217;ve got&#8221; means something different for us today than it would have meant in 1937, and I like thinkin&#8217; &#8217;bout it.</p>
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		<title>By: Moniker Challenged</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/19/lace-stockings/comment-page-1/#comment-32917</link>
		<dc:creator>Moniker Challenged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope, nothing seems to have changed except the fashion, the prices, and the job titles.  I really hate these woman battles though.  Is the only way for Ellen to be happy in the end to feel superior to those Godless women of the world?   Or vice versa?  How &#039;bout we all just try to be happy with what we&#039;ve got and allow everyone else the same privilege!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, nothing seems to have changed except the fashion, the prices, and the job titles.  I really hate these woman battles though.  Is the only way for Ellen to be happy in the end to feel superior to those Godless women of the world?   Or vice versa?  How &#8217;bout we all just try to be happy with what we&#8217;ve got and allow everyone else the same privilege!</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/19/lace-stockings/comment-page-1/#comment-32903</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t familiar with Kate Chopin&#039;s short story until your comment, LAT, but quickly read it &lt;a href=http://www.pbs.org/katechopin/library/silkstockings.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

I can see why this rang bells in your memory -- the two stories do have a few visual props in common (a woman with a little money that could have been spent on her family&#039;s unending needs, maybe the reference to eating lunch, and of course the finding of beautiful -- and marked down! -- silk stockings), but as you say, the stories have little else in common, especially in the way in which KC&#039;s heroine wishes her day of fantasy could never end, while our Ellen turns her back on that fantasy and ends up &quot;humming a happy little tune&quot; after remembering the worth of what she is doing.  Thanks for the referral -- it was fun to consider the differences, especially in resolution.

Maybe there&#039;s a paper there for some literature student, comparing and contrasting the two stories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t familiar with Kate Chopin&#8217;s short story until your comment, LAT, but quickly read it <a href=http://www.pbs.org/katechopin/library/silkstockings.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>
<p>I can see why this rang bells in your memory &#8212; the two stories do have a few visual props in common (a woman with a little money that could have been spent on her family&#8217;s unending needs, maybe the reference to eating lunch, and of course the finding of beautiful &#8212; and marked down! &#8212; silk stockings), but as you say, the stories have little else in common, especially in the way in which KC&#8217;s heroine wishes her day of fantasy could never end, while our Ellen turns her back on that fantasy and ends up &#8220;humming a happy little tune&#8221; after remembering the worth of what she is doing.  Thanks for the referral &#8212; it was fun to consider the differences, especially in resolution.</p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s a paper there for some literature student, comparing and contrasting the two stories.</p>
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		<title>By: LAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I kept thinking I&#039;d read this story before, and then I remembered Kate Chopin&#039;s story &quot;A Pair of Silk Stockings.&quot; I was convinced that this author had just ripped off that story and added in some references to religious themes :) But when I went back and read Chopin&#039;s story, I realized they&#039;re really not all that similar at all! Thanks for sharing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept thinking I&#8217;d read this story before, and then I remembered Kate Chopin&#8217;s story &#8220;A Pair of Silk Stockings.&#8221; I was convinced that this author had just ripped off that story and added in some references to religious themes <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But when I went back and read Chopin&#8217;s story, I realized they&#8217;re really not all that similar at all! Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/19/lace-stockings/comment-page-1/#comment-32807</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This story is posted not because of its gripping dramatic style or its timeless literary qualities -- and it certainly isn&#039;t as charming as little Hans&#039;s story -- but because of the window it opens into Mormon women&#039;s lives and concerns from 1937. Who know how much would change, and how much would stay the same!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is posted not because of its gripping dramatic style or its timeless literary qualities &#8212; and it certainly isn&#8217;t as charming as little Hans&#8217;s story &#8212; but because of the window it opens into Mormon women&#8217;s lives and concerns from 1937. Who know how much would change, and how much would stay the same!</p>
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