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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/11/09/ardishood-the-view-from-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-307920</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a couple years late, but found this very meaningful. I have had a number of months &quot;confined&quot; physically, and that confinement while not infinite (if nothing else I will die some day), it is ongoing. It can be easy to fall into comparing myself now to myself 2, 4, 10 or more years ago, and lament those things that I can&#039;t do. Even when those things blessed the lives of others, those opportunities still came from God, independent of my worth. 

Reading this I thought of a comment, written in frustration, that I feel like I am only catching every third or fourth thought, and only every tenth chance to serve. Increasing this analogy, even every third, or every tenth number still goes on to infinity. 

Thank you. I needed this now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a couple years late, but found this very meaningful. I have had a number of months &#8220;confined&#8221; physically, and that confinement while not infinite (if nothing else I will die some day), it is ongoing. It can be easy to fall into comparing myself now to myself 2, 4, 10 or more years ago, and lament those things that I can&#8217;t do. Even when those things blessed the lives of others, those opportunities still came from God, independent of my worth. </p>
<p>Reading this I thought of a comment, written in frustration, that I feel like I am only catching every third or fourth thought, and only every tenth chance to serve. Increasing this analogy, even every third, or every tenth number still goes on to infinity. </p>
<p>Thank you. I needed this now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my all-time favorite comments, Eric! Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my all-time favorite comments, Eric! Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Boysen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Boysen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been a fan of the transfinite numbers since my first encounter with with them in elementary school (a book I read at the time called M.I.T.S., W.I.T.S. and Logic). I have also been a fan of Ardis since my first encounter with her posts on Times and Seasons. This means that there is a one to one correspondance between the transfinite numbers, cardinality Aleph sideways 8, and Ardishood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a fan of the transfinite numbers since my first encounter with with them in elementary school (a book I read at the time called M.I.T.S., W.I.T.S. and Logic). I have also been a fan of Ardis since my first encounter with her posts on Times and Seasons. This means that there is a one to one correspondance between the transfinite numbers, cardinality Aleph sideways 8, and Ardishood.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen M (ethesis)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen M (ethesis)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 04:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like this.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts inspired by Elder Gong’s talk on Temple Mirrors &#124; Andrew and Lizzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoughts inspired by Elder Gong’s talk on Temple Mirrors &#124; Andrew and Lizzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 02:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  One writer whom I have tremendous respect for, wrote the following: Which is larger? The set of all whole numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4 …? Or the set of all whole even numbers: 2, 4, 6, 8… ? They’re the same. Each set is infinite. One[set] is not twice as infinite as the other. That may be counter-intuitive, but it’s true. Only … limited human perspective protests, seeing the gaps in one sequence and insisting that the other sequence is fuller, larger, more complete, more perfect, more privileged. I am a Mormon woman. I have gifts given to me by my Maker. I seek to magnify those gifts and to serve in the temporal Kingdom of God and to take a place some day in the eternal Kingdom of God. I do not hold the Priesthood – I do not administer the ordinances of the Gospel, nor will I ever serve as a bishop or a priest or an apostle. I am not a mother, literally nor in any meaningful metaphorical sense…. Which set of gifts – mine, or a priest’s, or a mother’s – is largest? They’re the same. Each set is infinite. One is not more infinite than another. That may be counter-intuitive, misunderstood by the gentile world, and even protested by some Mormon women and men, but it’s true. Only … limited human perspective sees gaps in the set of my gifts and insists that another is fuller, larger, more complete, more perfect, more privileged. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  One writer whom I have tremendous respect for, wrote the following: Which is larger? The set of all whole numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4 …? Or the set of all whole even numbers: 2, 4, 6, 8… ? They’re the same. Each set is infinite. One[set] is not twice as infinite as the other. That may be counter-intuitive, but it’s true. Only … limited human perspective protests, seeing the gaps in one sequence and insisting that the other sequence is fuller, larger, more complete, more perfect, more privileged. I am a Mormon woman. I have gifts given to me by my Maker. I seek to magnify those gifts and to serve in the temporal Kingdom of God and to take a place some day in the eternal Kingdom of God. I do not hold the Priesthood – I do not administer the ordinances of the Gospel, nor will I ever serve as a bishop or a priest or an apostle. I am not a mother, literally nor in any meaningful metaphorical sense…. Which set of gifts – mine, or a priest’s, or a mother’s – is largest? They’re the same. Each set is infinite. One is not more infinite than another. That may be counter-intuitive, misunderstood by the gentile world, and even protested by some Mormon women and men, but it’s true. Only … limited human perspective sees gaps in the set of my gifts and insists that another is fuller, larger, more complete, more perfect, more privileged. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you said, and, anyway, &quot;the first shall be last and the last shall be first.&quot;  Also, about not seeking a place at the head of the table but at the foot.

I&#039;d just like to be in the room where the table stands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you said, and, anyway, &#8220;the first shall be last and the last shall be first.&#8221;  Also, about not seeking a place at the head of the table but at the foot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to be in the room where the table stands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ardis,
The concept (if we get it at all) of &quot;infinite and eternal&quot; changes everything in our linear perspective of the universe.

You have given me a fundamentally new perspective on something: totally surprising, delightful, and astonishingly simple. Once you see it, it is so simple, you feel foolish that you didn&#039;t see it all along.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis,<br />
The concept (if we get it at all) of &#8220;infinite and eternal&#8221; changes everything in our linear perspective of the universe.</p>
<p>You have given me a fundamentally new perspective on something: totally surprising, delightful, and astonishingly simple. Once you see it, it is so simple, you feel foolish that you didn&#8217;t see it all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TR -- I cannot post your comment, if that&#039;s what we want to call it. 

This post is not &lt;em&gt;about&lt;/em&gt; any one specific person -- it&#039;s not about Jack, and it isn&#039;t even about me, in particular. (I made up the silly &quot;Ardishood&quot; because I so hate the word &quot;personhood.&quot;) It&#039;s about all of us, individually, and anyone&#039;s individual set of God-given gifts, regardless of gender, regardless of priesthood, regardless of parenthood, regardless of any other quality which we use to separate each other into groups. 

I&#039;m not calling anyone -- including Jack -- immature, at least not in a way to distinguish one person from every other mortal. &lt;em&gt;All&lt;/em&gt; of us, in mortality and probably for a very long time hereafter, are immature and have limited perspective. How can anyone claim to be other than immature, or have a perspective other than limited, or think that I&#039;m claiming to be otherwise myself, in the context of infinity and eternity? &lt;em&gt;My&lt;/em&gt; mortal immaturity on occasion makes me long for certain gifts I don&#039;t have, rather than developing those I do have, or remembering that one day I&#039;ll have any necessary opportunities that I lack today. That longing, which sometimes sinks to coveting, is a common consequence of occasionally losing sight of eternity.

And no, I don&#039;t have it all worked out, and no, I don&#039;t claim to have resolved all the difficulties in my life or yours with regard to womanhood and priesthood and motherhood and any other kind of -hood. I can *know* something deep in my soul without always understanding it with my head or feeling it with my heart. I falter at times, just as I suppose you do. I can *know* something is right without having the wisdom and strength to live up to it all the time. You can&#039;t possibly guess how hard or long or often I have struggled and still struggle to find practical resolutions for the problems and paradoxes you claim I am glossing over.

And finally, no, I don&#039;t endorse all the comments left here, even when I haven&#039;t specifically argued against them. 

As for your parting shot, good luck with that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TR &#8212; I cannot post your comment, if that&#8217;s what we want to call it. </p>
<p>This post is not <em>about</em> any one specific person &#8212; it&#8217;s not about Jack, and it isn&#8217;t even about me, in particular. (I made up the silly &#8220;Ardishood&#8221; because I so hate the word &#8220;personhood.&#8221;) It&#8217;s about all of us, individually, and anyone&#8217;s individual set of God-given gifts, regardless of gender, regardless of priesthood, regardless of parenthood, regardless of any other quality which we use to separate each other into groups. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not calling anyone &#8212; including Jack &#8212; immature, at least not in a way to distinguish one person from every other mortal. <em>All</em> of us, in mortality and probably for a very long time hereafter, are immature and have limited perspective. How can anyone claim to be other than immature, or have a perspective other than limited, or think that I&#8217;m claiming to be otherwise myself, in the context of infinity and eternity? <em>My</em> mortal immaturity on occasion makes me long for certain gifts I don&#8217;t have, rather than developing those I do have, or remembering that one day I&#8217;ll have any necessary opportunities that I lack today. That longing, which sometimes sinks to coveting, is a common consequence of occasionally losing sight of eternity.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t have it all worked out, and no, I don&#8217;t claim to have resolved all the difficulties in my life or yours with regard to womanhood and priesthood and motherhood and any other kind of -hood. I can *know* something deep in my soul without always understanding it with my head or feeling it with my heart. I falter at times, just as I suppose you do. I can *know* something is right without having the wisdom and strength to live up to it all the time. You can&#8217;t possibly guess how hard or long or often I have struggled and still struggle to find practical resolutions for the problems and paradoxes you claim I am glossing over.</p>
<p>And finally, no, I don&#8217;t endorse all the comments left here, even when I haven&#8217;t specifically argued against them. </p>
<p>As for your parting shot, good luck with that.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post Ardis.  I also agree with what you&#039;ve said.  Your point brings to mind the words of Christ, &quot;My kingdom is not of this world.&quot;.

To start quantifying the blessings and responsibilities within the infinite and boundless Gospel of Jesus Christ into the physical realm of &quot;The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints&quot; is extremely short-sided.  The mortal sphere in-which human beings operate under the guidance of revelation and faith is but one small stepping stone in the infinite magnificence of Eternity.

I did not fully understand this concept until I experienced the work and teachings within the Temple.  The blessings and privileges which we can be granted by our Father in Heaven are limitless.  They can&#039;t simply be counted on our fingers and put through a calculator to display some sort of inequality in the temporal realm.

Any Priesthood holder who deems himself &quot;better&quot; or &quot;greater&quot; than a woman who does not bear the same responsibility, as the Doctrine and Covenants put it, &quot;Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man.&quot;.  

This is why I have difficulty in understand why someone would feel some sort of jealousy for this.  Priesthood power and responsibility isn&#039;t a badge or an award to wear.  It is a power that can only be &quot;maintained...by long-suffering, by gentleness and meekness, and by love unfeigned&quot;.  There is no need to feel &quot;less&quot; than someone else, precisely because the animosity and jealousy is most certainly not reciprocal by the humble, worthy, Priesthood holder.

As a father and husband I feel the utmost respect and honor toward my wife and mother of our children.  She is light-years above me in both gifts and righteousness.  I am humbled by her innate ability to nurture our children, run our home, and comfort me in a way that I could never understand.  She did not need an external power granted upon her to obtain this gift - it was something she was born with.

In my opinion, if God requires men to receive a gift through the laying on of hands based on requirements of righteousness, yet a woman needs no such external bestowal or requirement for her gift, it says quite a lot about which gender is the predisposed higher being in the eyes of God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Ardis.  I also agree with what you&#8217;ve said.  Your point brings to mind the words of Christ, &#8220;My kingdom is not of this world.&#8221;.</p>
<p>To start quantifying the blessings and responsibilities within the infinite and boundless Gospel of Jesus Christ into the physical realm of &#8220;The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints&#8221; is extremely short-sided.  The mortal sphere in-which human beings operate under the guidance of revelation and faith is but one small stepping stone in the infinite magnificence of Eternity.</p>
<p>I did not fully understand this concept until I experienced the work and teachings within the Temple.  The blessings and privileges which we can be granted by our Father in Heaven are limitless.  They can&#8217;t simply be counted on our fingers and put through a calculator to display some sort of inequality in the temporal realm.</p>
<p>Any Priesthood holder who deems himself &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;greater&#8221; than a woman who does not bear the same responsibility, as the Doctrine and Covenants put it, &#8220;Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man.&#8221;.  </p>
<p>This is why I have difficulty in understand why someone would feel some sort of jealousy for this.  Priesthood power and responsibility isn&#8217;t a badge or an award to wear.  It is a power that can only be &#8220;maintained&#8230;by long-suffering, by gentleness and meekness, and by love unfeigned&#8221;.  There is no need to feel &#8220;less&#8221; than someone else, precisely because the animosity and jealousy is most certainly not reciprocal by the humble, worthy, Priesthood holder.</p>
<p>As a father and husband I feel the utmost respect and honor toward my wife and mother of our children.  She is light-years above me in both gifts and righteousness.  I am humbled by her innate ability to nurture our children, run our home, and comfort me in a way that I could never understand.  She did not need an external power granted upon her to obtain this gift &#8211; it was something she was born with.</p>
<p>In my opinion, if God requires men to receive a gift through the laying on of hands based on requirements of righteousness, yet a woman needs no such external bestowal or requirement for her gift, it says quite a lot about which gender is the predisposed higher being in the eyes of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 03:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rameumptom, well definitely. My comment was more directed toward how we interact with others who don&#039;t share the same perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rameumptom, well definitely. My comment was more directed toward how we interact with others who don&#8217;t share the same perspective.</p>
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