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	<title>Comments on: Girls and the Priesthood: The View from 1937</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30307</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 05:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting. I find this same problem in many discussions of women&#039;s roles--the attitude that &quot;well, you don&#039;t get the important jobs, but I&#039;m sure we can think of something . . .&quot; The information itself is fine, it&#039;s the way it&#039;s framed that is bothersome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I find this same problem in many discussions of women&#8217;s roles&#8211;the attitude that &#8220;well, you don&#8217;t get the important jobs, but I&#8217;m sure we can think of something . . .&#8221; The information itself is fine, it&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s framed that is bothersome.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Peel</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30293</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Peel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is so very comforting to know that someone as  &#039;with it&#039; as you,  Ardis, occasionally  mistypes her own name-Daine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so very comforting to know that someone as  &#8216;with it&#8217; as you,  Ardis, occasionally  mistypes her own name-Daine</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30279</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you only knew, Paul, how often I mistyped my own name as Adris or Ardios ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you only knew, Paul, how often I mistyped my own name as Adris or Ardios &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30269</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[er, that would be &quot;Ardis&quot;, not &quot;Adris&quot;...sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er, that would be &#8220;Ardis&#8221;, not &#8220;Adris&#8221;&#8230;sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30267</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even men who serve in administrative roles err if they think that is the only service they give.

To me that&#039;s the key in &quot;ministering&quot; instead of &quot;administering&quot;.  

Unfortunately there are a lot of voices that focus on the lack of administrative weight of one group or another.  

Adris, thanks for prompting such a terrific discussion.  I think we&#039;ll continue this at home...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even men who serve in administrative roles err if they think that is the only service they give.</p>
<p>To me that&#8217;s the key in &#8220;ministering&#8221; instead of &#8220;administering&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately there are a lot of voices that focus on the lack of administrative weight of one group or another.  </p>
<p>Adris, thanks for prompting such a terrific discussion.  I think we&#8217;ll continue this at home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30256</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are a couple more examples (thinking of the Beehives in my Primary class and some of the things they&#039;ve done to serve lately...).

Faithfully recording the minutes in Beehive Presidency Meeting. 
Making a bulletin board/poster to share with other ward members the things your class has been doing.
Bearing your testimony.
Arranging with other class members a visit with a less active girl, including a personal invitation to an activity in the near future.
Sitting with the organist&#039;s kids during sacrament meeting (because organist&#039;s husband is in the bishopric).
Preparing a FHE lesson based on a conference talk.
Learning how to prepare and then giving a talk.
Comforting those that mourn.
Cleaning the toys in nursery. 
Taking Red Cross Babysitter Training/First Aid course.
Participate in band/orchestra at school. Learn to play Primary songs in addition to the band music.
Play with enthusiasm and good sportsmanship on the ward volleyball team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a couple more examples (thinking of the Beehives in my Primary class and some of the things they&#8217;ve done to serve lately&#8230;).</p>
<p>Faithfully recording the minutes in Beehive Presidency Meeting.<br />
Making a bulletin board/poster to share with other ward members the things your class has been doing.<br />
Bearing your testimony.<br />
Arranging with other class members a visit with a less active girl, including a personal invitation to an activity in the near future.<br />
Sitting with the organist&#8217;s kids during sacrament meeting (because organist&#8217;s husband is in the bishopric).<br />
Preparing a FHE lesson based on a conference talk.<br />
Learning how to prepare and then giving a talk.<br />
Comforting those that mourn.<br />
Cleaning the toys in nursery.<br />
Taking Red Cross Babysitter Training/First Aid course.<br />
Participate in band/orchestra at school. Learn to play Primary songs in addition to the band music.<br />
Play with enthusiasm and good sportsmanship on the ward volleyball team.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#039;ve been thinking for the past few minutes about why none of Paul&#039;s and Coffinberry&#039;s &quot;ways of service&quot; had occurred to me, I came up with two thoughts. 

The first is how cautious we ought to be about what voices we listen to -- even when I think I&#039;ve been careful, I see that my thinking has been adversely conditioned by so many online discussions that assume that because we have few administrative roles in the church, girls and women have &lt;em&gt;no&lt;/em&gt; real roles.

The second is that I needed a reminder -- which both Paul and Coffinberry give eloquently -- that routine acts can be acts of service, and I should be more conscious of those acts, both done and observed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve been thinking for the past few minutes about why none of Paul&#8217;s and Coffinberry&#8217;s &#8220;ways of service&#8221; had occurred to me, I came up with two thoughts. </p>
<p>The first is how cautious we ought to be about what voices we listen to &#8212; even when I think I&#8217;ve been careful, I see that my thinking has been adversely conditioned by so many online discussions that assume that because we have few administrative roles in the church, girls and women have <em>no</em> real roles.</p>
<p>The second is that I needed a reminder &#8212; which both Paul and Coffinberry give eloquently &#8212; that routine acts can be acts of service, and I should be more conscious of those acts, both done and observed.</p>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30254</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul answered before I did, Ardis, with a very good list. Additional ways might include elements of watch-care, as well as personal development to enable future service (diligence in school work, music lessons, repair skills, discernment, recordkeeping/bookkeeping, group management, meeting organization, social skills). Oh, gee. Fancy that... it&#039;s the current personal progress program.

I think the value of the lesson and any others like it is to help recast our thinking onto how our daily tasks and mundane efforts are nothing less than building up the Kingdom of God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul answered before I did, Ardis, with a very good list. Additional ways might include elements of watch-care, as well as personal development to enable future service (diligence in school work, music lessons, repair skills, discernment, recordkeeping/bookkeeping, group management, meeting organization, social skills). Oh, gee. Fancy that&#8230; it&#8217;s the current personal progress program.</p>
<p>I think the value of the lesson and any others like it is to help recast our thinking onto how our daily tasks and mundane efforts are nothing less than building up the Kingdom of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ardis,

I was just thinking that among the pioneers heading west, it seems like everything was in service to the group, even &#039;behaving oneself&#039;.  Maybe I&#039;m romanticizing it (and you&#039;d know better than I), but that&#039;s what it seems to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis,</p>
<p>I was just thinking that among the pioneers heading west, it seems like everything was in service to the group, even &#8216;behaving oneself&#8217;.  Maybe I&#8217;m romanticizing it (and you&#8217;d know better than I), but that&#8217;s what it seems to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/10/25/girls-and-the-priesthood-the-view-from-1937/comment-page-1/#comment-30252</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Paul. Seems obvious when you list some like that, but I admit I couldn&#039;t think of even one. Maybe it&#039;s because you present them *as service* and not merely as &quot;behaving yourself.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Paul. Seems obvious when you list some like that, but I admit I couldn&#8217;t think of even one. Maybe it&#8217;s because you present them *as service* and not merely as &#8220;behaving yourself.&#8221;</p>
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