Comments on: In Our Ward: Lesson 24: “Create in Me a Clean Heart” http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/07/04/in-our-ward-lesson-24-create-in-me-a-clean-heart/ Where our past is never very long ago Fri, 03 Jul 2015 16:51:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: Confutus http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/07/04/in-our-ward-lesson-24-create-in-me-a-clean-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-23924 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 07:30:53 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7230#comment-23924 For those who have have recognized a compulsive addiction or a besetting sin, one that doesn’t go away by simply resolving not to do it anymore, but requires a deeper change of heart, this plea is especially meaningful.

When we recognize that our conscious good intentions and willpower are repeatedly frustrated by deeper impulses that we barely recognize and cannot seem to control, we may well plead for divine aid.

And when that help, that cleansing, comes slowly, by imperceptible degrees, instead of miraculously all at once, we may endure agonizing guilt, and pain, and fear, and despair.

But it does come, if we are persistent in our faith in God and determination to repent.

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By: Alison http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/07/04/in-our-ward-lesson-24-create-in-me-a-clean-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-23906 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:15:22 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7230#comment-23906 Ditto what David Y. says, and I particularly liked the two quotes by Sister Dew and Elder Packer. Very pertinent. Thanks, Ardis, I didn’t get to church today – so you’re my Sunday School teacher for this week!

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By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/07/04/in-our-ward-lesson-24-create-in-me-a-clean-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-23904 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:04:17 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7230#comment-23904 Thanks, David. We talked a couple of weeks ago about what the Lord saw in David when he called him to be the king of Israel, and what a good man he was in the beginning of his reign. I think that set the stage for today’s lesson — rather than wanting too easily to condemn David and debate whether his soul was still in hell (I’ve heard those lessons, too), it was a more sympathetic discussion about how, if a good man like David could fall, step by step, into the darkest of sins, could we think we would be immune from the same fall? and how do we avoid that?

It did feel like a good discussion, IMO. We avoided the “those people” syndrome — “those people” who use pornography, “those people” who commit adultery, “those people” who need to repent. It was all a “we” and “us” personal discussion, by people who were aware of their own fallibility and their own need to guard against sin.

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By: David Y. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/07/04/in-our-ward-lesson-24-create-in-me-a-clean-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-23900 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:34:35 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=7230#comment-23900 Wow — another great lesson. Thanks for being willing to share these.

The highlight for me was this part:

“Create in me a clean heart, O, God.” I would like to spend the rest of our time discussing what this line means.

Instead of devolving into a (meaningless) discussion about whether David was ever truly forgiven of his sin, I was glad to read about all the wonderful aspects of cleanliness. Wonderful — thanks!

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