Comments on: I Have More Questions, 1897

By: Mina

Mina — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:33:41 +0000

But of course I enjoy these posts, Ardis! After all, I am a very juvenile instructor…

By: Clark

Clark — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:44:23 +0000

Yeah, Moniker, the idea that a single dance, conversation, or even entire evening in a public area would lead a young girl to ruin seems preposterous to this modern mind. So much for “in the world, but not of the world.”

Then again, The GQC attitude does bear a certain resemblance to the “don’t date non-members” mantra that was preached to me in the early ’90s.

By: Moniker Challenged

Moniker Challenged — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:37:52 +0000

I only had 2-3 seconds to speculate on why GQC thought lunch auctions were inappropriate, but his reasons definitely weren’t the same as mine. (The potential for hurt feelings, and unflattering attitudes toward women)

By: Ardis E. Parshall

Ardis E. Parshall — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:32:38 +0000

Many of the ladies were equally interested. Bad boys, you know.

By: Mark B.

Mark B. — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:12:15 +0000

Actually, I was most interested in the Rude Cowboys and the Rough Boys Called Mormons.

By: Mark B.

Mark B. — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:11:10 +0000

Was J. Reuben Clark Jr. ordained an apostle? (The Deseret News almanac says he was, on October 11, 1934.) But he was never a member of the Quorum of the Twelve. And the almanac is silent on whether he was ordained a high priest.

And Alvin R. Dyer, though he was ordained an apostle (in October 1967), was never a member of the Quorum of the Twelve. And after serving as “another” counselor to Pres. McKay, he returned to serving as an Assistant to the Twelve, and then the First Quorum of Seventy when it was organized in 1976, until he died in 1977. And he was ordained a high priest in 1927.

By: Ardis E. Parshall

Ardis E. Parshall — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:11:09 +0000

I still wonder after all this time whether anybody is going to find something in a post to be as interesting as I do. And almost every time, somebody — several somebodies — land on exactly the phrases or ideas that intrigued me in the first place.

Thank you.

By: Clark

Clark — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:21:47 +0000

The evils of the picnic basket… A theme for Rogers and Hammerstein used to good effect. Poor Curly McLain had to auction his saddle to keep his girl out of the clutches of one “rude cowboy.”

And why doesn’t anyone use the word “communicant” in Mormondom anymore? It has such a nice reverent ring…

Questions 3 and 5 reminded me of McConkie’s Mormon Doctrine. While he doesn’t go so far as to call hypnotism “prostitution of the soul,” he sides squarely with Bro. Cannon on both issues.

Question 4 brings up an interesting historical question: when was the last time an apostle was selected that WASN’T a high priest prior to his ordination? Alvin Dyer? J. Reuben Clark? I think this is one of those areas like literal descendants of Aaron serving as bishop without counselors. Sure it’s possible an Elder could be ordained an apostle, but in practice it never happens.

By: kevinf

kevinf — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:35:37 +0000

Ha!

Teachers and Deacons may pass the emblems, but lay members may do so in handing them from one communicant to another.

My wife has always wondered about the distinction between a deacon passing the sacrament tray, and a sister passing it to the person next to her. Wondering as in “Why is this any different?” Not that she is advocating for the Beehives girls to be given equal opportunities to serve, mind you.

Also, if you have hypnotized someone else, what does that make you? Is that why some hypnotists wear big hats?

Both the hypnotism and basket auction seem to be based on a root sense of not giving up your agency to someone else, certainly a very Mormon theme.

By: Anne (U.K)

Anne (U.K) — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:27:01 +0000

Ponders asking the stake to revive an old pioneer custom called the ‘auction-basket dance’ at the Stake Pioneer Picnic this Summer….

Would hypnotherapy (at the hands, or voice, of a fully qualified practitioner) also constitute ‘prostitution of the soul’?