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	<title>Comments on: Proprieties and Usages of Good Society &#8212; Lesson IV. Traveling</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Boysen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Boysen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recall the day my fourteen year-old self was in Munich in 1976, knowing no German, and my parents allowed me to go by myself to the Museum across town that we had visited the previous day as a family. 

I took the streetcar. I got on and was confronted with a huge machine that I was expected to pay for my trip. Some kindly person tried to help me, but in a couple of minutes I gave up in frustration, not really knowing how to get where I was going and totally unable to read the mile long words I was confronted with. After a few stops I got off the train. 

Unfortunately, I did not have anything identifying my hotel, and for some reason I could not backtrack due to the number of converging tracks. I am not sure how I found my way, but it sure would have been a better trip if someone had told me what to do before hand. 

At this juncture I really don&#039;t know what my parents were thinking in letting me go without any preparation. It was an adventure of sorts, but afforded little opportunity to see my objective &quot;with every faculty on the alert,&quot; or otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall the day my fourteen year-old self was in Munich in 1976, knowing no German, and my parents allowed me to go by myself to the Museum across town that we had visited the previous day as a family. </p>
<p>I took the streetcar. I got on and was confronted with a huge machine that I was expected to pay for my trip. Some kindly person tried to help me, but in a couple of minutes I gave up in frustration, not really knowing how to get where I was going and totally unable to read the mile long words I was confronted with. After a few stops I got off the train. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I did not have anything identifying my hotel, and for some reason I could not backtrack due to the number of converging tracks. I am not sure how I found my way, but it sure would have been a better trip if someone had told me what to do before hand. </p>
<p>At this juncture I really don&#8217;t know what my parents were thinking in letting me go without any preparation. It was an adventure of sorts, but afforded little opportunity to see my objective &#8220;with every faculty on the alert,&#8221; or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm.  &quot;Utterly alien.&quot;

I find myself pulled in the direction of reading this article not just as advice for a young woman taking the train for the first time out of her Utah home, but also for a person heading into the 20th century. 

What common sense of the turn of the 19th century to the 20th could have prepared anyone for the last hundred years? 

I wonder how the writer of the article would have responded to a vision of the cultural and historical events of the 20th century. As a train wreck? And what railroad functionary (marked either by Or brass buttons) could have given useful advice? 

Undoubtedly &quot;an unlimited amount of patience and civility&quot; would continue to come in handy, along with &quot;an air of composure and reserve,&quot; however one felt &quot;signs of nervousness or fear, or even the helplessness....&quot; 

Sartre might have been intrigued by suggested remedies for nausea (&quot;ginger root&quot; and &quot;crackers or fruit&quot; do not work for me). When faced with life’s little problems, it is often difficult not to &quot;jump up.&quot;  I do indeed find it difficult to &quot;sit absolutely still and cling to the handles of [my] seat.&quot;  Who knows - things might work out better if I could remember to do so. 

The advice &quot;to pray with all your might&quot; and to hand out articles of faith cards to dispel erroneous ideas seems like the best advice in the article. And to hold in mind that we are &quot;traveling to see something,&quot; and should therefore &quot;see it, with every faculty on the alert.&quot;  

After all, we are told that a full report will be required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  &#8220;Utterly alien.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find myself pulled in the direction of reading this article not just as advice for a young woman taking the train for the first time out of her Utah home, but also for a person heading into the 20th century. </p>
<p>What common sense of the turn of the 19th century to the 20th could have prepared anyone for the last hundred years? </p>
<p>I wonder how the writer of the article would have responded to a vision of the cultural and historical events of the 20th century. As a train wreck? And what railroad functionary (marked either by Or brass buttons) could have given useful advice? </p>
<p>Undoubtedly &#8220;an unlimited amount of patience and civility&#8221; would continue to come in handy, along with &#8220;an air of composure and reserve,&#8221; however one felt &#8220;signs of nervousness or fear, or even the helplessness&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sartre might have been intrigued by suggested remedies for nausea (&#8220;ginger root&#8221; and &#8220;crackers or fruit&#8221; do not work for me). When faced with life’s little problems, it is often difficult not to &#8220;jump up.&#8221;  I do indeed find it difficult to &#8220;sit absolutely still and cling to the handles of [my] seat.&#8221;  Who knows &#8211; things might work out better if I could remember to do so. </p>
<p>The advice &#8220;to pray with all your might&#8221; and to hand out articles of faith cards to dispel erroneous ideas seems like the best advice in the article. And to hold in mind that we are &#8220;traveling to see something,&#8221; and should therefore &#8220;see it, with every faculty on the alert.&#8221;  </p>
<p>After all, we are told that a full report will be required.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never thought of that! Not that I get to travel, but this is exactly the kind of good advice that sticks in my brain and will pop to the surface if I ever do get a chance to go someplace utterly alien.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never thought of that! Not that I get to travel, but this is exactly the kind of good advice that sticks in my brain and will pop to the surface if I ever do get a chance to go someplace utterly alien.</p>
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		<title>By: Moniker Challenged</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moniker Challenged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the young ladies should have packed bento boxes to go with the kimonos.  I liked the emphasis placed on the women learning to navigate all of the details of the journey for themselves.  I imagine this advice could have saved a number of ladies whose travel plans were complicated by weather or other unforeseen glitch.  Of course, one of my favorite travel tips comes from Rick Steves- always grab a card from your hotel front desk.  If you get lost you can just hand it to a cabbie, and you&#039;ll get home without having to know where you are or speak the language.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the young ladies should have packed bento boxes to go with the kimonos.  I liked the emphasis placed on the women learning to navigate all of the details of the journey for themselves.  I imagine this advice could have saved a number of ladies whose travel plans were complicated by weather or other unforeseen glitch.  Of course, one of my favorite travel tips comes from Rick Steves- always grab a card from your hotel front desk.  If you get lost you can just hand it to a cabbie, and you&#8217;ll get home without having to know where you are or speak the language.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I liked this post the best of all you have included so far in the series. Like others of you, I was intrigued by the prettily boxed fruit and the neatly cut sandwiches, etc. I also contrasted the &quot;neat traveling dress – dark gray or brown is a suitable color – very simply but well made, short enough to clear the ground; made with a jacket and skirt&quot; and the soft traveling hats with what people wear today on the airplanes. It was a whole different world back then.

I look forward to the boat travel part, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I liked this post the best of all you have included so far in the series. Like others of you, I was intrigued by the prettily boxed fruit and the neatly cut sandwiches, etc. I also contrasted the &#8220;neat traveling dress – dark gray or brown is a suitable color – very simply but well made, short enough to clear the ground; made with a jacket and skirt&#8221; and the soft traveling hats with what people wear today on the airplanes. It was a whole different world back then.</p>
<p>I look forward to the boat travel part, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes ... ricocheting hard boiled eggs ... a long-suppressed memory rises to the surface ... On our way to some district event in Toulouse, my mission companion suspended a bag of carefully wrapped deviled eggs from the handlebars of her bicycle, while I did something similar with whatever else we were bringing. That lasted until the bottom of the hill, when a sharp left turn drew the bag into the spinning spokes of her front wheel. Talk about something hitting the fan!

Hard boiled eggs, probably still in their shells, jolted from a dainty basket by the rude force of a collision, no doubt would be even more dangerous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8230; ricocheting hard boiled eggs &#8230; a long-suppressed memory rises to the surface &#8230; On our way to some district event in Toulouse, my mission companion suspended a bag of carefully wrapped deviled eggs from the handlebars of her bicycle, while I did something similar with whatever else we were bringing. That lasted until the bottom of the hill, when a sharp left turn drew the bag into the spinning spokes of her front wheel. Talk about something hitting the fan!</p>
<p>Hard boiled eggs, probably still in their shells, jolted from a dainty basket by the rude force of a collision, no doubt would be even more dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne (U.K)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne (U.K)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The advice about how to behave in an accident had me in stitches. I would however, hope that no-one was killed or concussed by falling satchels, Books of Mormon, or hard boiled eggs.

Next time I undertake a long train journey (generally undertaken without fear of dying, despite the fact I neglect to ask for blessings beforehand) and am mocked by the offspring for the amount of luggage I am carrying, I shall point them towards this post!

I&#039;m really enjoying this series. Thanks, Ardis!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advice about how to behave in an accident had me in stitches. I would however, hope that no-one was killed or concussed by falling satchels, Books of Mormon, or hard boiled eggs.</p>
<p>Next time I undertake a long train journey (generally undertaken without fear of dying, despite the fact I neglect to ask for blessings beforehand) and am mocked by the offspring for the amount of luggage I am carrying, I shall point them towards this post!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying this series. Thanks, Ardis!</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And by the way, I&#039;m looking forward to the installment on boat travel. It should be very interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, I&#8217;m looking forward to the installment on boat travel. It should be very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Ardis. I was trying to picture a cup made out of granite in all its igneous glory, and besides the fact that I&#039;ve never seen anything like that, it wasn&#039;t quite working as a light-weight travel accessory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ardis. I was trying to picture a cup made out of granite in all its igneous glory, and besides the fact that I&#8217;ve never seen anything like that, it wasn&#8217;t quite working as a light-weight travel accessory.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Starched cotton, and many layers of it!

It isn&#039;t a part of this series (unless I&#039;ve forgotten), but another piece of advice I read somewhere in the young women&#039;s materials recently was that some travelers made temple garments out of cheesecloth because that could be washed in a hotel basin and dried overnight.

Oh, if the antis who mock Mormon underwear only knew how complex the topic really could be ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starched cotton, and many layers of it!</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t a part of this series (unless I&#8217;ve forgotten), but another piece of advice I read somewhere in the young women&#8217;s materials recently was that some travelers made temple garments out of cheesecloth because that could be washed in a hotel basin and dried overnight.</p>
<p>Oh, if the antis who mock Mormon underwear only knew how complex the topic really could be &#8230;</p>
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