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	<title>Comments on: “Brigham Young” (1940): 20th Century Fox Studio Publicity</title>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The June 1941 &lt;em&gt;Improvement Era&lt;/em&gt; prints the text of a speech in this movie, a scene in a courtroom where Brigham Young is defending Joseph Smith. The &lt;em&gt;Era&lt;/em&gt; says: 

&quot;While the speech is fiction in detail, in spirit it is moving and fundamental.&quot;

I&#039;ll have to remember to cite this in the [oh-so-unlikely] event I want to defend some non-historical event or speech or person as being the way history &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; have been but wasn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The June 1941 <em>Improvement Era</em> prints the text of a speech in this movie, a scene in a courtroom where Brigham Young is defending Joseph Smith. The <em>Era</em> says: </p>
<p>&#8220;While the speech is fiction in detail, in spirit it is moving and fundamental.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to remember to cite this in the [oh-so-unlikely] event I want to defend some non-historical event or speech or person as being the way history <em>should</em> have been but wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re a poet, Books. I suppose most of us have a few moments we&#039;d like to witness, or at least a few people we&#039;d like to talk to. Some of mine are people who have successfully hidden from my searches ... the stories I *don&#039;t* tell here. 

And you ask a significant question: Did witnesses to iconic moments realize what they were seeing? Even something like the First Vision -- obviously Joseph realized he was experiencing something extraordinary, but without knowing the Lord as well as he eventually came to know him, without knowing what would grow out of those minutes in the Grove, could he *really* have understood the significance? Probably not, and maybe we ought to keep that in mind when we evaluate history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a poet, Books. I suppose most of us have a few moments we&#8217;d like to witness, or at least a few people we&#8217;d like to talk to. Some of mine are people who have successfully hidden from my searches &#8230; the stories I *don&#8217;t* tell here. </p>
<p>And you ask a significant question: Did witnesses to iconic moments realize what they were seeing? Even something like the First Vision &#8212; obviously Joseph realized he was experiencing something extraordinary, but without knowing the Lord as well as he eventually came to know him, without knowing what would grow out of those minutes in the Grove, could he *really* have understood the significance? Probably not, and maybe we ought to keep that in mind when we evaluate history.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope that during the Millenium, or at some point in time post-resurrection, that we&#039;ll get to see &quot;movies&quot; of what happened on earth throughout mortal history.  Or, perhaps there might be some future spiritual gift wherein we&#039;ll be able to remember having observed earth life from when we were in the pre-mortal existence.   

And not just the great and grand events of scripture, like the parting of the Red Sea, but also events of this dispensation, from the mighty events of the First Vision and the dedication of the Kirtland temple, to the mundane every day life of our ancestors.  

I&#039;d like to see the look on my grandfather&#039;s face when he was a young boy and arrived in America as he got off the boat from Europe.

But real life doesn&#039;t have the background music, the score, like a movie does. There was no orchestra playing when Brigham Young said &quot;This is the place.&quot;  Did he, Wilford Woodruff, and the other present &quot;get a feel&quot; for the momentousness of that occasion?  Was it anything like we feel when we see re-enactiments or read about it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that during the Millenium, or at some point in time post-resurrection, that we&#8217;ll get to see &#8220;movies&#8221; of what happened on earth throughout mortal history.  Or, perhaps there might be some future spiritual gift wherein we&#8217;ll be able to remember having observed earth life from when we were in the pre-mortal existence.   </p>
<p>And not just the great and grand events of scripture, like the parting of the Red Sea, but also events of this dispensation, from the mighty events of the First Vision and the dedication of the Kirtland temple, to the mundane every day life of our ancestors.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the look on my grandfather&#8217;s face when he was a young boy and arrived in America as he got off the boat from Europe.</p>
<p>But real life doesn&#8217;t have the background music, the score, like a movie does. There was no orchestra playing when Brigham Young said &#8220;This is the place.&#8221;  Did he, Wilford Woodruff, and the other present &#8220;get a feel&#8221; for the momentousness of that occasion?  Was it anything like we feel when we see re-enactiments or read about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We just got done watching the Brigham Young movie (Super Bowl? What&#039;s that?!), and will have to echo someone&#039;s comment on another post the other day: Yikes!

If understood as historical fiction, it is bearable to watch, but we found ourselves giggling (or laughing uproariously) a little too frequently. The peculiar sequence of events, the villains, the galling historical inaccuracies. At one point my husband called it &quot;hysterical fiction.&quot;

But I will admit that I had to wipe a tear from my eye when Brigham Young said, &quot;This is the place.&quot; 

It&#039;s the sort of movie that might be fun to watch some late night with a bunch of sleep-deprived Mormon history types.

On a serious note, Clair&#039;s article (see comment 23) points out some of the objections we had to the story, but it also points out the fact that it was so superior to any previous movie about the Mormons that it was embraced by many members of the church, and I agree that the portrayal was largely positive. 

Like Porter Rockwell said: &quot;Hallelujah!&quot;

(He was funny.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just got done watching the Brigham Young movie (Super Bowl? What&#8217;s that?!), and will have to echo someone&#8217;s comment on another post the other day: Yikes!</p>
<p>If understood as historical fiction, it is bearable to watch, but we found ourselves giggling (or laughing uproariously) a little too frequently. The peculiar sequence of events, the villains, the galling historical inaccuracies. At one point my husband called it &#8220;hysterical fiction.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I will admit that I had to wipe a tear from my eye when Brigham Young said, &#8220;This is the place.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the sort of movie that might be fun to watch some late night with a bunch of sleep-deprived Mormon history types.</p>
<p>On a serious note, Clair&#8217;s article (see comment 23) points out some of the objections we had to the story, but it also points out the fact that it was so superior to any previous movie about the Mormons that it was embraced by many members of the church, and I agree that the portrayal was largely positive. </p>
<p>Like Porter Rockwell said: &#8220;Hallelujah!&#8221;</p>
<p>(He was funny.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/01/27/%e2%80%9cbrigham-young%e2%80%9d-1940-20th-century-fox-studio-publicity/comment-page-1/#comment-19242</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just learned that Keepa&#039;ninny Clair wrote about the &quot;Brigham Young&quot; movie last year on the site he writes for as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-19393-Salt-Lake-City-Mormon-History-Examiner~y2009m8d29-Heber-J-Grant-and&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Salt Lake Mormon History Examiner&lt;/a&gt; -- we both even launched our columns with the same Heber J. Grant quote. 

Clair&#039;s account covers the story from the church&#039;s point of view rather than the studio&#039;s -- you ought to check that out as a complement to the post here at Keepa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just learned that Keepa&#8217;ninny Clair wrote about the &#8220;Brigham Young&#8221; movie last year on the site he writes for as the <a href="http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-19393-Salt-Lake-City-Mormon-History-Examiner~y2009m8d29-Heber-J-Grant-and" rel="nofollow">Salt Lake Mormon History Examiner</a> &#8212; we both even launched our columns with the same Heber J. Grant quote. </p>
<p>Clair&#8217;s account covers the story from the church&#8217;s point of view rather than the studio&#8217;s &#8212; you ought to check that out as a complement to the post here at Keepa.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in to keep Keepa available to the ninnies.  Heck, I don&#039;t read the Ensign every day, and that&#039;s worth $10 a year (recoils slightly at sound of thunder outside office windows).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in to keep Keepa available to the ninnies.  Heck, I don&#8217;t read the Ensign every day, and that&#8217;s worth $10 a year (recoils slightly at sound of thunder outside office windows).</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with us helping with the hosting fees. Your blog is the best part of every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with us helping with the hosting fees. Your blog is the best part of every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ardis:

That is a great idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis:</p>
<p>That is a great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/01/27/%e2%80%9cbrigham-young%e2%80%9d-1940-20th-century-fox-studio-publicity/comment-page-1/#comment-19196</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, hear.  I would pay something for my daily Keepa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear.  I would pay something for my daily Keepa.</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/01/27/%e2%80%9cbrigham-young%e2%80%9d-1940-20th-century-fox-studio-publicity/comment-page-1/#comment-19194</link>
		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ditto to what Mark Brown said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to what Mark Brown said.</p>
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