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	<title>Comments on: Gordon B. Hinckley Unexpectedly Finds Himself in a  War Zone</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2010/01/12/gordon-b-hinckley-unexpectedly-finds-himself-in-a-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-18813</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Older South Koreans, those usually 45 and over, are still very grateful to the US for saving them from communist takeover.  The younger generation, not so much.   Even those born during and for some years after the Korean War (er, &quot;conflict&quot;) inherited the gratitude from their parents and their society in general.

It used to be that way with the Philippines, for the US having liberated them in WW II from the brutal Japanese occupation.  But the generational memory of that wasn&#039;t passed on like it was in Korea.  Japan was pacified and was no longer a threat, so the Philippines didn&#039;t have a constant reminder like South Korea had.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Older South Koreans, those usually 45 and over, are still very grateful to the US for saving them from communist takeover.  The younger generation, not so much.   Even those born during and for some years after the Korean War (er, &#8220;conflict&#8221;) inherited the gratitude from their parents and their society in general.</p>
<p>It used to be that way with the Philippines, for the US having liberated them in WW II from the brutal Japanese occupation.  But the generational memory of that wasn&#8217;t passed on like it was in Korea.  Japan was pacified and was no longer a threat, so the Philippines didn&#8217;t have a constant reminder like South Korea had.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Curt. You are definitely da man in a conversation like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Curt. You are definitely da man in a conversation like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ardis - great post and reminder of how volatile things can be without any notice. One slight correction: The country was divided in 1948 along the 38th parallel, with the Soviet Union occupying the north and the USA occupying the south. The separate nations were given their present names of North Korea and South Korea.The president of South Korea was Lee Syung Mon (Syngman Rhee to Americans). 

The Soviet Union armed the North with T-34 tanks and trained 90,000 troops in secret preparation for an invasion of the South. It was June 25, 1950 when the well-equipped and comparatively massive NKPA (North Korean People&#039;s Army), under Soviet direction, swarmed across the imaginary border and with a few weeks had overrun Seoul and half of the lower peninsula. Harry Truman almost immediately ordered General MacArthur to use the forces in his command to aid the South.  I was awaiting discharge from the army as my 24-month enlistment was about up. 

Discharges were immediately frozen and after special training in mines and booby traps, I &quot;joined&quot; an Engineering Intelligence Team headed for Korea. I saw much of the peninsula, with even a short and unwelcomed stay in Pyongyang. Because of my early arrival in the war zone, I was among the first to be &quot;rotated&quot; stateside and my discharge was effective just three years after my 1948 enlistment date. I saw only one evidence of LDS presence when we were temporarily camped near an air base and heard of a group that met there occasionally. I attended one Sacrament Meeting - Many Air Force officers and a few enlisted men.

This experience was a distant memory until November 2003 when my grandson departed for the Seoul West Mission. In an unbelievable twist of fate, his older sister received her call six months later to the same mission. Her parents called the Missionary Department to make sure it wasn&#039;t a mistake. Their missions ended the same day and their parents traveled to Seoul to accompany them home. During their short stay their, my son, his wife and the two missionaries had dinner with one of the bishops and his family. My son mentioned my service in the country long ago. The bishop, a veteran of the South Korean army during the war, couldn&#039;t get over it and expressed his gratitude for the Americans giving service to keep their land free. Hearing those expressions quickly erased the bad memories of mud, cold, K-rations and general discomfort I grudgingly endured during my tour. I wish all those who suffered more injury than me in that war could hear what was related to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis &#8211; great post and reminder of how volatile things can be without any notice. One slight correction: The country was divided in 1948 along the 38th parallel, with the Soviet Union occupying the north and the USA occupying the south. The separate nations were given their present names of North Korea and South Korea.The president of South Korea was Lee Syung Mon (Syngman Rhee to Americans). </p>
<p>The Soviet Union armed the North with T-34 tanks and trained 90,000 troops in secret preparation for an invasion of the South. It was June 25, 1950 when the well-equipped and comparatively massive NKPA (North Korean People&#8217;s Army), under Soviet direction, swarmed across the imaginary border and with a few weeks had overrun Seoul and half of the lower peninsula. Harry Truman almost immediately ordered General MacArthur to use the forces in his command to aid the South.  I was awaiting discharge from the army as my 24-month enlistment was about up. </p>
<p>Discharges were immediately frozen and after special training in mines and booby traps, I &#8220;joined&#8221; an Engineering Intelligence Team headed for Korea. I saw much of the peninsula, with even a short and unwelcomed stay in Pyongyang. Because of my early arrival in the war zone, I was among the first to be &#8220;rotated&#8221; stateside and my discharge was effective just three years after my 1948 enlistment date. I saw only one evidence of LDS presence when we were temporarily camped near an air base and heard of a group that met there occasionally. I attended one Sacrament Meeting &#8211; Many Air Force officers and a few enlisted men.</p>
<p>This experience was a distant memory until November 2003 when my grandson departed for the Seoul West Mission. In an unbelievable twist of fate, his older sister received her call six months later to the same mission. Her parents called the Missionary Department to make sure it wasn&#8217;t a mistake. Their missions ended the same day and their parents traveled to Seoul to accompany them home. During their short stay their, my son, his wife and the two missionaries had dinner with one of the bishops and his family. My son mentioned my service in the country long ago. The bishop, a veteran of the South Korean army during the war, couldn&#8217;t get over it and expressed his gratitude for the Americans giving service to keep their land free. Hearing those expressions quickly erased the bad memories of mud, cold, K-rations and general discomfort I grudgingly endured during my tour. I wish all those who suffered more injury than me in that war could hear what was related to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am feeling so much of supernal gratitude that you commented, Hunter -- and laughing because I honestly hadn&#039;t noticed that speech pattern here, maybe because it sounded so normal when I read those words with his voice in my brain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am feeling so much of supernal gratitude that you commented, Hunter &#8212; and laughing because I honestly hadn&#8217;t noticed that speech pattern here, maybe because it sounded so normal when I read those words with his voice in my brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exciting stuff!  This resembles a 20th-century version of the Wilford Woodruff &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/20/wilford-woodruffs-first-mission-part-2-graphic-history/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;graphic history series&lt;/a&gt;.

And I enjoyed reading some of President Hinckley&#039;s own words; his witty comments about a Chinese wedding made me smile.  Also, I note that his habit of using &quot;of&quot; before nouns evidently didn&#039;t start when he was in the First Presidency:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The Korean people have seen so much of sorrow&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;These people have seen so much of war and suffering.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks to Ardis for letting all us readers enjoy so much of drama, and so much of excitement, through these posts.  [wink]  Love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exciting stuff!  This resembles a 20th-century version of the Wilford Woodruff <a href="http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/20/wilford-woodruffs-first-mission-part-2-graphic-history/" rel="nofollow">graphic history series</a>.</p>
<p>And I enjoyed reading some of President Hinckley&#8217;s own words; his witty comments about a Chinese wedding made me smile.  Also, I note that his habit of using &#8220;of&#8221; before nouns evidently didn&#8217;t start when he was in the First Presidency:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Korean people have seen so much of sorrow&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>and</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;These people have seen so much of war and suffering.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks to Ardis for letting all us readers enjoy so much of drama, and so much of excitement, through these posts.  [wink]  Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*sigh* 

I don&#039;t know how this got posted with the comments turned off. They&#039;re on now, if anybody wants to come back and say anything. Sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how this got posted with the comments turned off. They&#8217;re on now, if anybody wants to come back and say anything. Sorry.</p>
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