Comments on: Warmth and Story-Telling in the Spanish-American Mission, ca. 1949 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/ Where our past is never very long ago Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:21:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steve C. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14271 Steve C. Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:56:39 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14271 Mark B: My parents were sealed in the Mesa Temple in the late 1950s. Maybe they crossed paths with your parents. Mark B: My parents were sealed in the Mesa Temple in the late 1950s. Maybe they crossed paths with your parents.

]]> By: Researcher http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14269 Researcher Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:41:49 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14269 I'm glad Mark B. brought this post up again. The other day when it posted, I didn't have the time to look up whether Lorin F. Jones was related to Daniel W. Jones, who led a fascinating life and played a role in early missionary efforts among Spanish-Americans and Native Americans. He left an autobiography, <a href="http://www.geocities.com/fortyyearsamongtheindians/index.html" rel="nofollow">Forty Years Among the Indians</a>. (Tangent alert! I wish someone would write a biography of Ammon Tenney, another fascinating early Arizona settler. Tenney served as president of the Mexican Mission around the turn of the century.) But, I find that Lorin Jones and Daniel Jones do not seem to be related. I’m glad Mark B. brought this post up again. The other day when it posted, I didn’t have the time to look up whether Lorin F. Jones was related to Daniel W. Jones, who led a fascinating life and played a role in early missionary efforts among Spanish-Americans and Native Americans. He left an autobiography, Forty Years Among the Indians. (Tangent alert! I wish someone would write a biography of Ammon Tenney, another fascinating early Arizona settler. Tenney served as president of the Mexican Mission around the turn of the century.)

But, I find that Lorin Jones and Daniel Jones do not seem to be related.

]]> By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14267 Ardis E. Parshall Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:11:11 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14267 I used to live in a ward with a man in the church's AV department who was responsible on at least some occasions for carrying the films to temples in Central/South America. His preferred stories tended toward implications of the supernatural ("The censor was just about to watch the movie when he got an emergency call and waved me through!") -- I think I like President Hinckley's and your pragmatic version better. I used to live in a ward with a man in the church’s AV department who was responsible on at least some occasions for carrying the films to temples in Central/South America. His preferred stories tended toward implications of the supernatural (“The censor was just about to watch the movie when he got an emergency call and waved me through!”) — I think I like President Hinckley’s and your pragmatic version better.

]]> By: Mark B. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14265 Mark B. Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:27:21 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14265 Add me to the list of those who'd be interested in hearing about the beginnings of the Spanish-language temple sessions. My grandparents served as temple workers in the Mesa Temple for many years, beginning in the late 50s or early 60s, and in their old age learned enough Spanish to serve in the Spanish-language sessions. On a slightly related topic, I heard President Hinckley tell of his experiences in taking the temple films to Switzerland for the opening of the Swiss Temple. The Swiss customs officials apparently had the right to watch any films that were brought into the country, and the brethren were obviously concerned. So they asked Brother Hinckley, not yet a general authority, to come up with a solution. He said that he went to Alexander Schreiner, the tabernacle organist, and had him record 20 or 30 minutes of "unlistenable" organ music, and patched that onto the beginning of the tapes with the temple ceremonies, figuring that that would stop any nosy customs officer. And that's where my memory goes off the tracks--whatever happened at customs inspection, the films made it through without being watched, but I forget the details. Add me to the list of those who’d be interested in hearing about the beginnings of the Spanish-language temple sessions. My grandparents served as temple workers in the Mesa Temple for many years, beginning in the late 50s or early 60s, and in their old age learned enough Spanish to serve in the Spanish-language sessions.

On a slightly related topic, I heard President Hinckley tell of his experiences in taking the temple films to Switzerland for the opening of the Swiss Temple. The Swiss customs officials apparently had the right to watch any films that were brought into the country, and the brethren were obviously concerned. So they asked Brother Hinckley, not yet a general authority, to come up with a solution. He said that he went to Alexander Schreiner, the tabernacle organist, and had him record 20 or 30 minutes of “unlistenable” organ music, and patched that onto the beginning of the tapes with the temple ceremonies, figuring that that would stop any nosy customs officer. And that’s where my memory goes off the tracks–whatever happened at customs inspection, the films made it through without being watched, but I forget the details.

]]> By: Marjorie Conder http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14234 Marjorie Conder Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:55:35 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14234 Ardis--There is a quilt in the Church collections from this mission from the 1940s in a similar style, although I do not recall any scripture stories on it. It is one of those quilts (so common throughout Mormondom in a certain time period) where an individual unit (in this case) or an individual sister would create a block which would then become a part of a greater whole. This quilt, along with a number of similar examples from far flung areas of the world were used in the RS sesquicentennial in 1992 to represent sisterhood. These quilts (and other items) where a number of people contributed are in the tradition of 19th century album quilts, (although the motifs on most Mormon quilts I have seen are quite different from traditional album quilt motifs.) Ardis–There is a quilt in the Church collections from this mission from the 1940s in a similar style, although I do not recall any scripture stories on it. It is one of those quilts (so common throughout Mormondom in a certain time period) where an individual unit (in this case) or an individual sister would create a block which would then become a part of a greater whole. This quilt, along with a number of similar examples from far flung areas of the world were used in the RS sesquicentennial in 1992 to represent sisterhood. These quilts (and other items) where a number of people contributed are in the tradition of 19th century album quilts, (although the motifs on most Mormon quilts I have seen are quite different from traditional album quilt motifs.)

]]> By: m&m http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14232 m&m Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:08:45 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14232 I love this. Add me to the list of people interested in hearing more. I love this. Add me to the list of people interested in hearing more.

]]> By: Joseph Soderborg http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14229 Joseph Soderborg Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:54:40 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14229 Ardis do you know if the Joneses knew any LDS soldiers leaving for WWII or Korea? Any Spanish speaking soldiers? Ardis do you know if the Joneses knew any LDS soldiers leaving for WWII or Korea? Any Spanish speaking soldiers?

]]> By: Steve C. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14226 Steve C. Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:35:37 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14226 I would really enjoy something on the Joneses and the Spanish temple sessions. Again, I think that non-English temple sessions was a significant and vital part for the expansion of the Church outside the USA. That's too bad you didn't get to go to the Swiss Temple on your mission. I know how they were back then about missionaries going to the temple. I hope that someday you can get back to Europe and do some of that. I would really enjoy something on the Joneses and the Spanish temple sessions. Again, I think that non-English temple sessions was a significant and vital part for the expansion of the Church outside the USA.

That’s too bad you didn’t get to go to the Swiss Temple on your mission. I know how they were back then about missionaries going to the temple. I hope that someday you can get back to Europe and do some of that.

]]> By: David G. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14221 David G. Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:51:01 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14221 Cool, thanks Ardis. Cool, thanks Ardis.

]]> By: Jared T. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/09/09/warmth-and-story-telling-in-the-spanish-american-mission-ca-1949/comment-page-1/#comment-14220 Jared T. Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:36:44 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=3199#comment-14220 Interesting, Ardis. Thanks. Pablo is Paul, so, Paul Teaching. Interesting, Ardis. Thanks.

Pablo is Paul, so, Paul Teaching.

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