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	<title>Comments on: The Deacons&#8217; Meeting, 1925</title>
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	<description>Where our past is never very long ago</description>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-14003</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great idea, Ardis.  I like the idea of helping the &quot;olders&quot; get a little more connected.  This would be a great focus for a service project or three.

In the context of fast offerings, there will probably always be those folks who have to be visited because they never quite make it to church and won&#039;t bother to make a contribution unless there&#039;s a deacon standing on the front porch.  On top of that, like was mentioned, some folks can&#039;t get out and the little visit on the front porch is probably a good thing, even if not fuel- or time-efficient.

By the way, Clark, our ward still uses the roving microphone (two, actually).  The AP boys sit at the front in chairs waiting for their cue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea, Ardis.  I like the idea of helping the &#8220;olders&#8221; get a little more connected.  This would be a great focus for a service project or three.</p>
<p>In the context of fast offerings, there will probably always be those folks who have to be visited because they never quite make it to church and won&#8217;t bother to make a contribution unless there&#8217;s a deacon standing on the front porch.  On top of that, like was mentioned, some folks can&#8217;t get out and the little visit on the front porch is probably a good thing, even if not fuel- or time-efficient.</p>
<p>By the way, Clark, our ward still uses the roving microphone (two, actually).  The AP boys sit at the front in chairs waiting for their cue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-14002</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The collecting of fast offerings by the deacons no doubt is a holdover from earlier times when people&#039;s offerings were not checks, but were produce and flour and firewood. 

If that&#039;s the case, maybe it&#039;s time to replace those outdated duties with some more attuned to the times. Perhaps the deacons could be assigned to help old people (in this case, 40 and over!) with programming their cell phones or hooking up new printers to their computers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The collecting of fast offerings by the deacons no doubt is a holdover from earlier times when people&#8217;s offerings were not checks, but were produce and flour and firewood. </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, maybe it&#8217;s time to replace those outdated duties with some more attuned to the times. Perhaps the deacons could be assigned to help old people (in this case, 40 and over!) with programming their cell phones or hooking up new printers to their computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-13999</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[queuno:

Amen, and amen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>queuno:</p>
<p>Amen, and amen.</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-13993</link>
		<dc:creator>queuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for gathering fast offerings, any active, weekly Church-attending member who doesn&#039;t include the fast offering with the tithing check, needs to be reeducated by the deacons on the use of modern collection techniques... (i.e., INCLUDE IT WITH THE DARN CHECK AND SKIP THE VISIT).

(Obviously, those who may not be able to attend Church and don&#039;t have the ability to mail a check are excluded and should get a visit...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for gathering fast offerings, any active, weekly Church-attending member who doesn&#8217;t include the fast offering with the tithing check, needs to be reeducated by the deacons on the use of modern collection techniques&#8230; (i.e., INCLUDE IT WITH THE DARN CHECK AND SKIP THE VISIT).</p>
<p>(Obviously, those who may not be able to attend Church and don&#8217;t have the ability to mail a check are excluded and should get a visit&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>queuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obstensibly, the DQP is supposed to be the senior patrol leader of the ward&#039;s troop, so the biggest area of responsibility is the scout program on Wednesday night (or another night), in conjunction with the youth leaders.

I have argued for years with a friend about how it&#039;s counterproductive to automatically make the DQP the senior patrol leader, if the DQP is not going to be engaged in Scouting.  My friend&#039;s retort has always been that you go in the opposite direction:  You find the kid you want to be the senior patrol leader and make him the DQP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obstensibly, the DQP is supposed to be the senior patrol leader of the ward&#8217;s troop, so the biggest area of responsibility is the scout program on Wednesday night (or another night), in conjunction with the youth leaders.</p>
<p>I have argued for years with a friend about how it&#8217;s counterproductive to automatically make the DQP the senior patrol leader, if the DQP is not going to be engaged in Scouting.  My friend&#8217;s retort has always been that you go in the opposite direction:  You find the kid you want to be the senior patrol leader and make him the DQP.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-13968</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Coffin berry that much of this is still relevant, except:
In our ward, taking care of the sacrament set is relegated to the Teachers Quorum. Also, the quorum doesn&#039;t vote on admitting new members.  The bishop asks for a vote from the entire congregation in sacrament meeting, after explaining he has been interviewed and found worthy.  
  Many things I did as a deacon in the &#039;80s (bishop&#039;s messenger, usher, the &quot;roving microphone&quot; during fast and testimony meeting, etc.) have now disappeared.

We do have a member of the presidency teach the rest of the quorum on the 1st sunday of the month (same as EQ and RS) which has yielded surprisingly good results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Coffin berry that much of this is still relevant, except:<br />
In our ward, taking care of the sacrament set is relegated to the Teachers Quorum. Also, the quorum doesn&#8217;t vote on admitting new members.  The bishop asks for a vote from the entire congregation in sacrament meeting, after explaining he has been interviewed and found worthy.<br />
  Many things I did as a deacon in the &#8217;80s (bishop&#8217;s messenger, usher, the &#8220;roving microphone&#8221; during fast and testimony meeting, etc.) have now disappeared.</p>
<p>We do have a member of the presidency teach the rest of the quorum on the 1st sunday of the month (same as EQ and RS) which has yielded surprisingly good results.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 06:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was interested in the comment that the deacons were to have their shoes blacked. Today in our Sacrament Meeting, one of the deacons had on a pair of bright turquoise blue high top canvas shoes. It was really a distraction, as everyone in sight of him was concentrating on his shoes and not on the Saviour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested in the comment that the deacons were to have their shoes blacked. Today in our Sacrament Meeting, one of the deacons had on a pair of bright turquoise blue high top canvas shoes. It was really a distraction, as everyone in sight of him was concentrating on his shoes and not on the Saviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-13953</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this interesting piece.  The writer&#039;s tone is polite if a bit stiff -- not unlike a lot of the well-meaning AP youth in the Church today!

In our Ward, the AP youth are in charge of manning the sacrament duties each week for a rehab/nursing home that lies within our ward boundaries.  They are almost all intent on doing their duty.  I&#039;m not sure they always rise to the level of &quot;maturity,&quot; but to do some of the service they do bespeaks a good upbringing.

As an aside, there&#039;s something wonderful about the fact that the writer&#039;s first example of &quot;outside duties&quot; was &quot;cutting wood for widows.&quot;  I think it suggests that he&#039;s had some experience with that particular chore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this interesting piece.  The writer&#8217;s tone is polite if a bit stiff &#8212; not unlike a lot of the well-meaning AP youth in the Church today!</p>
<p>In our Ward, the AP youth are in charge of manning the sacrament duties each week for a rehab/nursing home that lies within our ward boundaries.  They are almost all intent on doing their duty.  I&#8217;m not sure they always rise to the level of &#8220;maturity,&#8221; but to do some of the service they do bespeaks a good upbringing.</p>
<p>As an aside, there&#8217;s something wonderful about the fact that the writer&#8217;s first example of &#8220;outside duties&#8221; was &#8220;cutting wood for widows.&#8221;  I think it suggests that he&#8217;s had some experience with that particular chore.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-13952</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least you&#039;re talkin&#039; to me. Thanks, Coffinberry -- your comments are always welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you&#8217;re talkin&#8217; to me. Thanks, Coffinberry &#8212; your comments are always welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/08/30/the-deacons-meeting-1925/comment-page-1/#comment-13949</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ack! Sorry about that, Ardis. I get verbose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack! Sorry about that, Ardis. I get verbose.</p>
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