Comments on: Roadshow Costumes You Won’t See Again Soon

By: Julia

Julia — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:52:05 +0000

I think that my costume in the stake presentation of Annie, as one of the orphans, was pretty similar as far as coverage goes. I don’t think that 25 years later anyone would have ripped the nightgowns and had us wear flesh colored dance tights and suits under them.

By: Ardis E. Parshall

Ardis E. Parshall — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:55:34 +0000

May you continue to enjoy your cheerful marriage always, manaen!

By: manaen

manaen — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:51:33 +0000

There are a lot of bloggernaclers who love to debate gay marriage
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What’s to debate among an LDS audience? I understood that we uniformly are for gay marriages. I’m in one and my wife and I count our gaiety as a boon.
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I am, however, puzzled by the misuse of this word as a synonym for homosexual. This isn’t necessarily to say that homosexuals can’t be cheerful, sprightly, blithe, or light-hearted, but to use gay as a synonym for homosexual makes heterosexual a synonym for not having those attributes. In the modern argot, it becomes a form of hate speech and makes my wife and me its victims.
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I tried responding in kind by using happy as a synonym for heterosexual — e.g. “Is he gay?” “No, he’s happy.” — but it didn’t find much currency.

By: Ardis E. Parshall

Ardis E. Parshall — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:10:26 +0000

Tatiana, I don’t go around the bloggernacle fighting with feminists about whether or not they should intrude on their daughters’ temple recommend interviews because “women have stewardship over women’s sexuality” or whether or not it’s immoral and anti-Mormon to teach that fornication is the new chastity for 30-year-olds, or any of the other jaw-dropping feminist claims that are made more or less regularly. I don’t understand why you insist I am bound to argue those issues with you here.

If some Keepa post draws a feminist response from you and you want to comment from that direction, fine, I’ve told you repeatedly that it’s okay with me. But don’t expect me to debate feminism with you — if I wanted to do that, I’d join in on the blogs where that is the regular theme.

There are a lot of bloggernaclers who love to debate gay marriage, and abortion, and partisan U.S. politics, and economic policies. Some historical post may draw a sincere response in any of those directions — but I won’t be pulled into a debate about those ideas any more than I will debate feminist principles.

Posting about an historical topic does not place me under obligation to discuss every imaginable response. I’ve already ruled out my participation in some conversations. That isn’t going to change.

By: Tatiana

Tatiana — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:51:41 +0000

So, you care about me, just not about my honest concerns and the sincere feelings that the historical facts you share stir up?

Please understand that I care about you too and I’m delighted with Keepa and all the fascinating things you post. I’m sorry that my genuine responses to these things are upsetting you.

How about if I just say “mmm-mm-mmmm-mmph” when I see something like that? That’s the sound of me stifling my natural reaction. Would that help?

By: Ardis E. Parshall

Ardis E. Parshall — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:08:18 +0000

Tatiana, I don't like feminist politics, a fact you know, and I don't welcome what to me are tired and pointless debates about matters that wouldn't be a problem if women let their religion guide their politics instead of allowing their politics to deform their religion. I'm dismissive of the politics, but not of you -- in fact, it's only because it's you, whom I like and who have been so supportive of Keepa in the past, and not some drive-by stranger, that gives me the incentive to tone down my response. (It would have been nice, by the way, had bloggers at any of the feminist blogs extended the same courtesy to me in reverse, instead of being as foul as some of them have been.) But since you know I don't want to provide a platform for feminist political debate, it would be kind of you not to try to stir one up. I don't mind in the slightest if you make on-topic comments that happen to reflect your feminism. If it will be less offensive to you than the present state of affairs, I'll simply acknowledge those comments with "Hi, Tatiana."

By: Tatiana

Tatiana — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:30:35 +0000

Oh I think discussing whether changes are good or bad is quite interesting in all your examples as well as mine. I think all three of your examples are unalloyed good things. Mine, though, I think is bad. When I saw those costumes I got a wistful feeling that my grandmother’s generation of Mormon women were a lot freer than are we.

I think one of the most important reasons to study history is the light it sheds on our assumptions today. It’s always interesting to find out that things one thought had always been that way were actually a lot newer than one supposed. It’s always an eye-opener when that happens.

I’m sorry if you find it tiresome that I always think of things from a feminist perspective. I always do feel as though my questions and thoughts have been thoroughly dismissed by your replies, Ardis! As though I’ve been impertinent or out of line somehow even to have thought those things much less said them out loud. But these are my natural thoughts, and I think they’re valid. So I don’t feel it’s valid to dismiss them.

The elders seem to agree with me that these questions are of great importance.
http://www.theelders.org/womens-initiatives
Are we mistaken?

By: JonW

JonW — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:15:55 +0000

Hmm my last experience in Church plays was as a grumpy elf during a christmas play about ooo 30 years ago.

Actually my biggest disappointment with the church was the removal of the summer softball leagues. I cannot stand basketball but it seems to be the only one left other than a half baked tournament once a year.

By: Hunter

Hunter — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:00:31 +0000

I’ve enjoyed all the banter about the YMCA and exposed thighs, etc. But I’m thoroughly disappointed in the Keepaninny Branch’s apparent inability to comment on the PIRATES! They’re pirates, people!

ARRRRRRRRdis has given us a chance to ARRRRRRgue about something new, ye scurvey currs!

By: Bruce Crow

Bruce Crow — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:47:26 +0000

JonW,
As I was getting ready for work this morning I was thinking that the MIA = YMCA song almost writes itself. But you beat me to the punch. Great stuff. And, yes, you are a natural.