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	<title>Comments on: Justice for Hing Sing (Utah history)</title>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/28/justice-for-hing-sing-utah-history/comment-page-1/#comment-12889</link>
		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we object to recycled Salt Lake Tribune columns? I can&#039;t speak for all your readers (just myself), but I love it! I&#039;m always happy to read your writing, even a second time around, and since I don&#039;t always see your Tribune columns, it&#039;s great that you put them up.

I&#039;ve been reading an account of my great-grandparents going on a church history trip. They took a 5000 mile tour organized by Chi&#039;s Tours in Salt Lake City with the tour directed by Terue Kawai. (It looks like Chi&#039;s Tours is still in business, and I see a mention of &lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.deseretnews.com/archive/1139165/Obituary-Wuta-Terazawa-Tsuya.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Terue Kawai&lt;/a&gt; in her sister&#039;s obituary in the Deseret News, and a mention of her living in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tastebook.com/recipes/693159-Terriyai-Chicken&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pasadena&lt;/a&gt;, which is where my great grandparents also lived.) 

Off the top of my head, this is one of only a very small handful of references in my family history (perhaps two) mentioning minorities in the Western states. So I appreciate your efforts, and those of Brandon and others who are telling the stories of these people who can be so easily overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we object to recycled Salt Lake Tribune columns? I can&#8217;t speak for all your readers (just myself), but I love it! I&#8217;m always happy to read your writing, even a second time around, and since I don&#8217;t always see your Tribune columns, it&#8217;s great that you put them up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading an account of my great-grandparents going on a church history trip. They took a 5000 mile tour organized by Chi&#8217;s Tours in Salt Lake City with the tour directed by Terue Kawai. (It looks like Chi&#8217;s Tours is still in business, and I see a mention of <a href="http://archive.deseretnews.com/archive/1139165/Obituary-Wuta-Terazawa-Tsuya.html" rel="nofollow">Terue Kawai</a> in her sister&#8217;s obituary in the Deseret News, and a mention of her living in <a href="http://www.tastebook.com/recipes/693159-Terriyai-Chicken" rel="nofollow">Pasadena</a>, which is where my great grandparents also lived.) </p>
<p>Off the top of my head, this is one of only a very small handful of references in my family history (perhaps two) mentioning minorities in the Western states. So I appreciate your efforts, and those of Brandon and others who are telling the stories of these people who can be so easily overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/28/justice-for-hing-sing-utah-history/comment-page-1/#comment-12887</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody enjoys it more than I do, at least!

(I hope nobody objects to my recycling Trib columns -- they go offline after a couple of months at the Trib site, and I like having them available to googlers. Every once in a while I get email from a descendant of someone I&#039;ve written about who missed it the first time around. I love the way pieces can just hang out there in cyberspace until the one person to whom it will mean the most is ready to look for it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody enjoys it more than I do, at least!</p>
<p>(I hope nobody objects to my recycling Trib columns &#8212; they go offline after a couple of months at the Trib site, and I like having them available to googlers. Every once in a while I get email from a descendant of someone I&#8217;ve written about who missed it the first time around. I love the way pieces can just hang out there in cyberspace until the one person to whom it will mean the most is ready to look for it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/28/justice-for-hing-sing-utah-history/comment-page-1/#comment-12886</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis-

I thought it was one of your &lt;em&gt;Tribune&lt;/em&gt; columns.  

As Mark pointed out, folks sometimes want to reduce Utah history to Mormon history.  But the state&#039;s past is much more complex and diverse than that.  This is the same thing I try to do on the Beehive Archive radio show and blog, but I have to admit that I think you do it better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis-</p>
<p>I thought it was one of your <em>Tribune</em> columns.  </p>
<p>As Mark pointed out, folks sometimes want to reduce Utah history to Mormon history.  But the state&#8217;s past is much more complex and diverse than that.  This is the same thing I try to do on the Beehive Archive radio show and blog, but I have to admit that I think you do it better!</p>
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		<title>By: GiZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>GiZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating story, Ardis. Wonderful sleuthing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating story, Ardis. Wonderful sleuthing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/28/justice-for-hing-sing-utah-history/comment-page-1/#comment-12872</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis,

I just wanted to thank you for this post.  Utah has a very rich and interesting history, but we often just look at the Mormon history part of it. I appreciate this reminder that other immigrants also found a home in the beehive state and contributed to the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis,</p>
<p>I just wanted to thank you for this post.  Utah has a very rich and interesting history, but we often just look at the Mormon history part of it. I appreciate this reminder that other immigrants also found a home in the beehive state and contributed to the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/28/justice-for-hing-sing-utah-history/comment-page-1/#comment-12871</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to when the history of the origen of all peoples is made manifest.  If we take the Old Testament literally (and I mostly do), then we&#039;re all descended from either Shem, Ham, or Japheth.  After those three, the Genesis record gives names, but we don&#039;t know how to make the connections from those names to the major ethnicities or regional groups of today.  The only line we have any degree of real confidence about (tieing the Biblical record to otherwise identifiable people) is Shem, who is the father of the &quot;Semites&quot;, and his descendent &quot;Eber&quot; who is the father of the &quot;Hebrews.&quot;  I&#039;m sure other connections have been asserted or suggested, but they are more tenuous.

We&#039;re told by revelation that the people of the &quot;Isles of the Sea&quot; (presumably of the Pacific) are of Joseph, but we don&#039;t know how that connection came about.

Pacific Islanders are tied genetically with East Asians (&quot;Orientals&quot;, but that is not a current term), but we don&#039;t know any of the stories behind those genetic ties.

DNA studies tell us modern day Natives of this Hemisphere have a good degree of Asian ancestry, but other than the &quot;Alaskan land bridge migration&quot; theory, we don&#039;t know how that came about either, and how those lines got admixed with the Lehites.

South Asians are another large group related more to Caucasians than East Asians (technically the people of India _are_ considered Caucasian).

Asians are such a large percentage of world population now, and taking a larger and larger role in world affairs. It&#039;s going to be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to when the history of the origen of all peoples is made manifest.  If we take the Old Testament literally (and I mostly do), then we&#8217;re all descended from either Shem, Ham, or Japheth.  After those three, the Genesis record gives names, but we don&#8217;t know how to make the connections from those names to the major ethnicities or regional groups of today.  The only line we have any degree of real confidence about (tieing the Biblical record to otherwise identifiable people) is Shem, who is the father of the &#8220;Semites&#8221;, and his descendent &#8220;Eber&#8221; who is the father of the &#8220;Hebrews.&#8221;  I&#8217;m sure other connections have been asserted or suggested, but they are more tenuous.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re told by revelation that the people of the &#8220;Isles of the Sea&#8221; (presumably of the Pacific) are of Joseph, but we don&#8217;t know how that connection came about.</p>
<p>Pacific Islanders are tied genetically with East Asians (&#8220;Orientals&#8221;, but that is not a current term), but we don&#8217;t know any of the stories behind those genetic ties.</p>
<p>DNA studies tell us modern day Natives of this Hemisphere have a good degree of Asian ancestry, but other than the &#8220;Alaskan land bridge migration&#8221; theory, we don&#8217;t know how that came about either, and how those lines got admixed with the Lehites.</p>
<p>South Asians are another large group related more to Caucasians than East Asians (technically the people of India _are_ considered Caucasian).</p>
<p>Asians are such a large percentage of world population now, and taking a larger and larger role in world affairs. It&#8217;s going to be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/28/justice-for-hing-sing-utah-history/comment-page-1/#comment-12867</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Practical jokes&quot; are awful, really, aren&#039;t they, Bruce?

namakemono, this is the only one I&#039;ve done, although I keep my eyes open for more (lots of information relating to the Chinese is available in the period newspapers, but I haven&#039;t happened to run across a &lt;em&gt;story&lt;/em&gt; as opposed to bare bones data. As with the blacks and Greeks and a few other minorities, the Chinese only seem to have made it into the public record when they were accused of crimes, so there&#039;s a very skewed image available.

Thanks, Brandon. I&#039;d love the link. As you probably realize, this was original a column for the &lt;em&gt;Tribune&lt;/em&gt;, where I try to write about as many different flavors of Utahns as I can identify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Practical jokes&#8221; are awful, really, aren&#8217;t they, Bruce?</p>
<p>namakemono, this is the only one I&#8217;ve done, although I keep my eyes open for more (lots of information relating to the Chinese is available in the period newspapers, but I haven&#8217;t happened to run across a <em>story</em> as opposed to bare bones data. As with the blacks and Greeks and a few other minorities, the Chinese only seem to have made it into the public record when they were accused of crimes, so there&#8217;s a very skewed image available.</p>
<p>Thanks, Brandon. I&#8217;d love the link. As you probably realize, this was original a column for the <em>Tribune</em>, where I try to write about as many different flavors of Utahns as I can identify.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/28/justice-for-hing-sing-utah-history/comment-page-1/#comment-12861</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story, Ardis.  Do you mind if I link to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story, Ardis.  Do you mind if I link to it?</p>
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		<title>By: namakemono</title>
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		<dc:creator>namakemono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post! A few years ago I did some research about early Chinese immigration to New Zealand - the situation there was pretty similar it seems. Have you done any other posts on Chinese immigrants/immigration?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post! A few years ago I did some research about early Chinese immigration to New Zealand &#8211; the situation there was pretty similar it seems. Have you done any other posts on Chinese immigrants/immigration?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first started reading this I thought about my great grandfather who, family lore goes, would stand in the second story of his father&#039;s harness shop and throw pieces of scrap metal into the laundry baskets on the heads of the passing Chinese. The baskets would fall into the mud and the Chinese would come in the shop very unhappy. Of course his father didn&#039;t understand a word of Chinese, so eventually they would leave. 

With that story in mind, I half expected to find my great grandfather&#039;s name among the convicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first started reading this I thought about my great grandfather who, family lore goes, would stand in the second story of his father&#8217;s harness shop and throw pieces of scrap metal into the laundry baskets on the heads of the passing Chinese. The baskets would fall into the mud and the Chinese would come in the shop very unhappy. Of course his father didn&#8217;t understand a word of Chinese, so eventually they would leave. </p>
<p>With that story in mind, I half expected to find my great grandfather&#8217;s name among the convicted.</p>
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