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	<title>Comments on: Church History Library: First Month Report Card</title>
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		<title>By: GiZ</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-2/#comment-12751</link>
		<dc:creator>GiZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is incredibly hard to type on a laptop while using the old readers.

One of my favorite little things at the new library was getting a &quot;Church History Library&quot; flash drive for $7.50 in a pinch. Both useful and a souvenir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is incredibly hard to type on a laptop while using the old readers.</p>
<p>One of my favorite little things at the new library was getting a &#8220;Church History Library&#8221; flash drive for $7.50 in a pinch. Both useful and a souvenir.</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-2/#comment-12744</link>
		<dc:creator>queuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;queuno, I love the way your comments always come in pairs, and also the way you’ve brought us back full circle, Seinfeld show-like, to the beginning: “Oh, yeah, blame IT!”&lt;/i&gt;

Well, I don&#039;t want to disappoint...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>queuno, I love the way your comments always come in pairs, and also the way you’ve brought us back full circle, Seinfeld show-like, to the beginning: “Oh, yeah, blame IT!”</i></p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t want to disappoint&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>queuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;.Queuno, for every failed IT project, there are unrealistic or poorly defined business requirements plus complementary incorrect IT assumptions and rushed implementations, all magnified by the lack of an adequate budget. I suspect all of these are in play in the current state of the CHL catalog.&lt;/i&gt;

Absolutely.  At any rate, I&#039;ll bet that the new CHL catalog *may* have been designed by some BYU grad student.  My spies in Provo tell me that many of the science and engineering students are picking up capstone projects from various Church IT projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>.Queuno, for every failed IT project, there are unrealistic or poorly defined business requirements plus complementary incorrect IT assumptions and rushed implementations, all magnified by the lack of an adequate budget. I suspect all of these are in play in the current state of the CHL catalog.</i></p>
<p>Absolutely.  At any rate, I&#8217;ll bet that the new CHL catalog *may* have been designed by some BYU grad student.  My spies in Provo tell me that many of the science and engineering students are picking up capstone projects from various Church IT projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-2/#comment-12721</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And -- duh -- I hadn&#039;t realized until I read what I just typed that the reason the microfilm corner is so crowded, with no space for laptops or even yellow pads for notetaking, is probably because it was planned for only six machines rather than nine. 

They&#039;re still on the hook for not listening to the experience of the librarians/archivists who knew how many machines have long been in simultaneous use, but maybe it gives the consultants an excuse for not allowing enough space for each individual user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And &#8212; duh &#8212; I hadn&#8217;t realized until I read what I just typed that the reason the microfilm corner is so crowded, with no space for laptops or even yellow pads for notetaking, is probably because it was planned for only six machines rather than nine. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re still on the hook for not listening to the experience of the librarians/archivists who knew how many machines have long been in simultaneous use, but maybe it gives the consultants an excuse for not allowing enough space for each individual user.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GiZ (you know I&#039;m going to have to call you &quot;an old GiZzer&quot; from now on, don&#039;t you?) --

Gossip says that the library/archives pros, who had not toured the new building until all the furniture and equipment was in place, were shocked to see that only six new microfilm readers had been set up. They knew from experience that that wasn&#039;t enough, and knew they had asked for more (a request that the outside &quot;experts&quot; overrode because the Huntington -- whose collections are vastly different from ours -- only needed six), so they retained some of the old machines to tide us over until more of the new ones could be ordered and shipped. 

Your wish is likely to be granted before many of the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GiZ (you know I&#8217;m going to have to call you &#8220;an old GiZzer&#8221; from now on, don&#8217;t you?) &#8211;</p>
<p>Gossip says that the library/archives pros, who had not toured the new building until all the furniture and equipment was in place, were shocked to see that only six new microfilm readers had been set up. They knew from experience that that wasn&#8217;t enough, and knew they had asked for more (a request that the outside &#8220;experts&#8221; overrode because the Huntington &#8212; whose collections are vastly different from ours &#8212; only needed six), so they retained some of the old machines to tide us over until more of the new ones could be ordered and shipped. </p>
<p>Your wish is likely to be granted before many of the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Gentile in Zion</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-2/#comment-12711</link>
		<dc:creator>Gentile in Zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the review, Ardis. I see no one has stepped up to the plate to defend the catalog, which is the most disappointing feature of the new building to me. I have had no problems operating the men&#039;s toilets, however. 

I find the staff (well, about half of the staff) very helpful, and most of the other half are at least friendly. 

I wish they had better microfilm readers for the not-safe-to-photocopy material. Those old, dim readers always put me right to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the review, Ardis. I see no one has stepped up to the plate to defend the catalog, which is the most disappointing feature of the new building to me. I have had no problems operating the men&#8217;s toilets, however. </p>
<p>I find the staff (well, about half of the staff) very helpful, and most of the other half are at least friendly. </p>
<p>I wish they had better microfilm readers for the not-safe-to-photocopy material. Those old, dim readers always put me right to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-2/#comment-12699</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend who wrote to me privately gives permission to post this paragraph:

&quot;A couple of weeks ago I wandered up there on my lunch hour, mostly to stretch my legs and get out of [the office]. I could not find a computer terminal to use because of all the kids playing games on them. I wandered the aisles of books and thought I&#039;d look something up in the Journal History. Couldn&#039;t find it. When I asked at the desk, a sweet missionary told me it was in the reserved reading room. I commented that was new and she said it had ALWAYS been in the reserved reading room and that I needed to fill out a paper to use it. Told her never mind. After a minute of wandering, I found it on the back wall. When I noticed the new copy machines I asked the young male missionary if the old cards worked in these machines (I still had some money on my old card) he seemed confused. When I showed him my card he, with all certainty, said that card was only used at the FHL. I mentioned that I had used it in March at the Church Library and he told me &quot;you must be confused because we have never used those cards. They are for the Family History Library only.&quot; OOOkkaaaaayy. Then I was looking for something else and must have looked confused (not hard these days) and another sweet missionary materialized out of nowhere and said she had to actually escort me to whatever it was I was looking for. When I told her I was browsing, she said I had to look up whatever I wanted on the computer and then she would &quot;take&quot; me to it. I thought to tell her I was looking for peace and sanity, but thought better of it. Not exactly a good start for me, but then I haven&#039;t had time to do any real work there yet.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend who wrote to me privately gives permission to post this paragraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;A couple of weeks ago I wandered up there on my lunch hour, mostly to stretch my legs and get out of [the office]. I could not find a computer terminal to use because of all the kids playing games on them. I wandered the aisles of books and thought I&#8217;d look something up in the Journal History. Couldn&#8217;t find it. When I asked at the desk, a sweet missionary told me it was in the reserved reading room. I commented that was new and she said it had ALWAYS been in the reserved reading room and that I needed to fill out a paper to use it. Told her never mind. After a minute of wandering, I found it on the back wall. When I noticed the new copy machines I asked the young male missionary if the old cards worked in these machines (I still had some money on my old card) he seemed confused. When I showed him my card he, with all certainty, said that card was only used at the FHL. I mentioned that I had used it in March at the Church Library and he told me &#8220;you must be confused because we have never used those cards. They are for the Family History Library only.&#8221; OOOkkaaaaayy. Then I was looking for something else and must have looked confused (not hard these days) and another sweet missionary materialized out of nowhere and said she had to actually escort me to whatever it was I was looking for. When I told her I was browsing, she said I had to look up whatever I wanted on the computer and then she would &#8220;take&#8221; me to it. I thought to tell her I was looking for peace and sanity, but thought better of it. Not exactly a good start for me, but then I haven&#8217;t had time to do any real work there yet.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-2/#comment-12689</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent, they&#039;ve intended for quite a while to put the catalog online, since they know it would greatly aid researchers in planning their trips or in knowing what questions to email to librarians. They first wanted to combine what had been separate catalogs for the library (published) and archival (unpublished) materials ... which was done recently, and if they hadn&#039;t gone too far, would have made this catalog the one to post online.

I don&#039;t know when it will make it online, but at this point I suggest that you&#039;re better off waiting for an improved catalog than wanting this one posted.

kevinf, if you do bring a child, also bring butter. The cafeteria opens at 11:30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent, they&#8217;ve intended for quite a while to put the catalog online, since they know it would greatly aid researchers in planning their trips or in knowing what questions to email to librarians. They first wanted to combine what had been separate catalogs for the library (published) and archival (unpublished) materials &#8230; which was done recently, and if they hadn&#8217;t gone too far, would have made this catalog the one to post online.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know when it will make it online, but at this point I suggest that you&#8217;re better off waiting for an improved catalog than wanting this one posted.</p>
<p>kevinf, if you do bring a child, also bring butter. The cafeteria opens at 11:30.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-1/#comment-12687</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queuno, for every failed IT project, there are unrealistic or poorly defined business requirements plus complementary incorrect IT assumptions and rushed implementations, all magnified by the lack of an adequate budget.  I suspect all of these are in play in the current state of the CHL catalog.

Auntie Ardis, I&#039;ll be in the CHL the week after Sunstone at least one day, so I&#039;ll be sure to say hi, between my loud cell phone calls, solitaire on the computers, and setting up the random child for window ejection. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queuno, for every failed IT project, there are unrealistic or poorly defined business requirements plus complementary incorrect IT assumptions and rushed implementations, all magnified by the lack of an adequate budget.  I suspect all of these are in play in the current state of the CHL catalog.</p>
<p>Auntie Ardis, I&#8217;ll be in the CHL the week after Sunstone at least one day, so I&#8217;ll be sure to say hi, between my loud cell phone calls, solitaire on the computers, and setting up the random child for window ejection. <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kent Larsen</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/07/22/church-history-library-first-month-report-card/comment-page-1/#comment-12682</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis, I can&#039;t say how disappointed I am to hear about the Catalog. Why they didn&#039;t just license one of the research library products I can&#039;t imagine. They may not be perfect, but any researcher with experience knows exactly how they function, and often knows how to get out of them exactly what they want.

AND, better still, making those catalogs available on the Internet is easy and a known quantity. When will the CHL catalog make it to the Internet anyway?

FWIW, Ardis, I&#039;ll be in Utah for the first two weeks of August - so I hope to hit the library one of those days. If you are there, I&#039;ll offer a ride home again. If you aren&#039;t, well, I know where you live... [grin]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis, I can&#8217;t say how disappointed I am to hear about the Catalog. Why they didn&#8217;t just license one of the research library products I can&#8217;t imagine. They may not be perfect, but any researcher with experience knows exactly how they function, and often knows how to get out of them exactly what they want.</p>
<p>AND, better still, making those catalogs available on the Internet is easy and a known quantity. When will the CHL catalog make it to the Internet anyway?</p>
<p>FWIW, Ardis, I&#8217;ll be in Utah for the first two weeks of August &#8211; so I hope to hit the library one of those days. If you are there, I&#8217;ll offer a ride home again. If you aren&#8217;t, well, I know where you live&#8230; [grin]</p>
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