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	<title>Comments on: Monument to the Restoration of the Aaronic Priesthood</title>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/03/12/monument-to-the-restoration-of-the-aaronic-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-8043</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good hunting, Left Field. That&#039;s a valuable bit of research. The next time I hear someone say that &quot;they&quot; object to the depiction of a simultaneous ordination, I&#039;ll be able to point to this. Mostly, though, I&#039;m glad of your help in understanding it better for myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good hunting, Left Field. That&#8217;s a valuable bit of research. The next time I hear someone say that &#8220;they&#8221; object to the depiction of a simultaneous ordination, I&#8217;ll be able to point to this. Mostly, though, I&#8217;m glad of your help in understanding it better for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By coincidence, I attended a baptism this evening where they showed a church video dramatizing the restoration of the priesthood.  The video clearly depicts John ordaining both Joseph and Oliver simultaneously, although you can&#039;t actually see his hands on their heads.  John reaches down and forward with both hands going out of frame while a voiceover of Joseph quotes, &quot;having laid his hands upon us, he ordained us saying,&#039;Upon you my fellow servents...&#039;&quot; with John lip-synching the words of the ordination.  At the end of the ordination, John is seen withdrawing both hands.

So the video clearly shows the simultaneous ordination, while arguably being a bit squeamish about showing John with his hands on both.

Interestingly, the verbiage used by John was once recommended when ordaining brethren to the Aaronic Priesthood.  Joseph F. Smith&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Gospel Doctrine&lt;/em&gt; includes a quotation from the Improvement Era (4:394, March 1901) stating the following:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In ordaining those who have not yet received the Aaronic Priesthood, to any office therein, the words of John the Baptist to Joseph Smith, Jr., and Oliver Cowdery, would be appropriate to immediately precede the act of ordination.  They are:

&quot;Upon you my fellow servants [servant], in the name of Messiah, I confer the Priesthood of Aaron.&quot;

Of course, it would not necessarily follow that these exact words should be used, but the language should be consistent with the act of conferring the Aaronic Priesthood.&lt;/blockquote&gt; (The bracketed material is in &lt;em&gt;Gospel Doctrine;&lt;/em&gt; I can&#039;t say if it&#039;s also in the &lt;em&gt;Improvement Era&lt;/em&gt; original.)

At the end of &lt;em&gt;Gospel Doctrine, &lt;/em&gt; there is an Addendum by the First Presidency (Grant, Lund, Penrose) indicating that&lt;blockquote&gt; In reference to the form of procedure mentioned on page 136, and that set forth in this addendum as adopted by the leading authorities of the Church from the beginning, our beloved and departed President, Joseph F. Smith, when questioned concerning them, decided, as of record, &quot;It is a distinction without a difference,&quot; and &quot;either will do.&quot;

Persons, therefore, who have been ordained in either way hold the right to officiate in all the duties of their respective offices in the Priesthood.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By coincidence, I attended a baptism this evening where they showed a church video dramatizing the restoration of the priesthood.  The video clearly depicts John ordaining both Joseph and Oliver simultaneously, although you can&#8217;t actually see his hands on their heads.  John reaches down and forward with both hands going out of frame while a voiceover of Joseph quotes, &#8220;having laid his hands upon us, he ordained us saying,&#8217;Upon you my fellow servents&#8230;&#8217;&#8221; with John lip-synching the words of the ordination.  At the end of the ordination, John is seen withdrawing both hands.</p>
<p>So the video clearly shows the simultaneous ordination, while arguably being a bit squeamish about showing John with his hands on both.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the verbiage used by John was once recommended when ordaining brethren to the Aaronic Priesthood.  Joseph F. Smith&#8217;s <em>Gospel Doctrine</em> includes a quotation from the Improvement Era (4:394, March 1901) stating the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>In ordaining those who have not yet received the Aaronic Priesthood, to any office therein, the words of John the Baptist to Joseph Smith, Jr., and Oliver Cowdery, would be appropriate to immediately precede the act of ordination.  They are:</p>
<p>&#8220;Upon you my fellow servants [servant], in the name of Messiah, I confer the Priesthood of Aaron.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, it would not necessarily follow that these exact words should be used, but the language should be consistent with the act of conferring the Aaronic Priesthood.</p></blockquote>
<p> (The bracketed material is in <em>Gospel Doctrine;</em> I can&#8217;t say if it&#8217;s also in the <em>Improvement Era</em> original.)</p>
<p>At the end of <em>Gospel Doctrine, </em> there is an Addendum by the First Presidency (Grant, Lund, Penrose) indicating that<br />
<blockquote> In reference to the form of procedure mentioned on page 136, and that set forth in this addendum as adopted by the leading authorities of the Church from the beginning, our beloved and departed President, Joseph F. Smith, when questioned concerning them, decided, as of record, &#8220;It is a distinction without a difference,&#8221; and &#8220;either will do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Persons, therefore, who have been ordained in either way hold the right to officiate in all the duties of their respective offices in the Priesthood.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2009/03/12/monument-to-the-restoration-of-the-aaronic-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-8016</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a wonderful report, Alan, thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a wonderful report, Alan, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan LeBaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan LeBaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your post brought back fond memories from 50 years ago. As a 12 year old deacon, I was able to attend the general priesthood meeting in the Tabernacle where the statue was dedicated in 1959. Thanks to the generosity of some leaders in the Calgary Alberta Stake, I along with about 150 other boys and our leaders from the stake were able to travel to Conference in 5 Greyhound buses and participate in the celebration. To qualify for the expense paid trip, we had to have had 100% attendance for the previous year. I remember the still shiny statue and sitting in the Tabernacle for the first time in my life during the Priesthood session. As a 12 year old my most vivid memory of that trip was being in the tabernacle with the 1000&#039;s of other Priesthood holders and realizing that I was part of a worldwide Brotherhood. On my infrequent trips back to Temple Square, I always stop at the statue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post brought back fond memories from 50 years ago. As a 12 year old deacon, I was able to attend the general priesthood meeting in the Tabernacle where the statue was dedicated in 1959. Thanks to the generosity of some leaders in the Calgary Alberta Stake, I along with about 150 other boys and our leaders from the stake were able to travel to Conference in 5 Greyhound buses and participate in the celebration. To qualify for the expense paid trip, we had to have had 100% attendance for the previous year. I remember the still shiny statue and sitting in the Tabernacle for the first time in my life during the Priesthood session. As a 12 year old my most vivid memory of that trip was being in the tabernacle with the 1000&#8242;s of other Priesthood holders and realizing that I was part of a worldwide Brotherhood. On my infrequent trips back to Temple Square, I always stop at the statue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha, I hadn&#039;t thought about the parallels between Fairbanks and Dallin -- they&#039;re there.

Brandon, when I see your Dallin piece posted on Beehive Achive, I&#039;ll link to it here. More people need to discover your blog. The same kinds of stories appeal to both of us, so Beehive Archive should appeal to Keepa readers.

(There&#039;s a link in Keepa&#039;s sideblog, for readers who may not yet have discovered the Beehive.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, I hadn&#8217;t thought about the parallels between Fairbanks and Dallin &#8212; they&#8217;re there.</p>
<p>Brandon, when I see your Dallin piece posted on Beehive Achive, I&#8217;ll link to it here. More people need to discover your blog. The same kinds of stories appeal to both of us, so Beehive Archive should appeal to Keepa readers.</p>
<p>(There&#8217;s a link in Keepa&#8217;s sideblog, for readers who may not yet have discovered the Beehive.)</p>
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		<title>By: BruceCrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceCrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve C. - I remember reading a blog about that too, though I thought it was longer ago than a month. There was a drawing of a woman blessing her two children with a hand on each child. I recall it sparked a discussion on the image of John the Baptist doing the same thing. I thought it was JI, but searching for it now I can&#039;t find it. So I looked at T&amp;S, BCC and here. No luck. I don&#039;t go to many other blogs, so I can&#039;t guess where else it might be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve C. &#8211; I remember reading a blog about that too, though I thought it was longer ago than a month. There was a drawing of a woman blessing her two children with a hand on each child. I recall it sparked a discussion on the image of John the Baptist doing the same thing. I thought it was JI, but searching for it now I can&#8217;t find it. So I looked at T&amp;S, BCC and here. No luck. I don&#8217;t go to many other blogs, so I can&#8217;t guess where else it might be.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ardis-

Great piece.  

I find Fairbanks fascinating.  He&#039;s the faithful Mormon foil to Cyrus Dallin, also a Utahn (from Springville) whose family separated from the LDS Church while he was still young.  Dallin, of course, crafted the Angel Moroni that sits atop the SL Temple and the statue of Brigham Young at the intersection of Main and South Temple.

I did a story on Dallin for the Beehive Archive.  Maybe it&#039;s time to post the script on my blog.

Brandon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis-</p>
<p>Great piece.  </p>
<p>I find Fairbanks fascinating.  He&#8217;s the faithful Mormon foil to Cyrus Dallin, also a Utahn (from Springville) whose family separated from the LDS Church while he was still young.  Dallin, of course, crafted the Angel Moroni that sits atop the SL Temple and the statue of Brigham Young at the intersection of Main and South Temple.</p>
<p>I did a story on Dallin for the Beehive Archive.  Maybe it&#8217;s time to post the script on my blog.</p>
<p>Brandon</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have an oil painting by John B Fairbanks, who I&#039;m assuming was the father of Avard. He lived west across the train tracks and down a lane from where my husband&#039;s family lived on Whitlock Avenue in Salt Lake, (about 1200 East and 21st South area).

My father-in-law wrote on the back of the painting (abt 10x13) &quot;This oil painting, done by John B Fairbanks, was given to John and Enid Ward because they let a younger Fairbanks use the garage or at least park his car on Whitlock Avenue during the winters.&quot;

The painting is of the lane looking down toward the Fairbanks homestead, apparently a spring scene as there are blossoms on some of the trees. On the back of the painting is also written, &quot;Our winter sledding hill.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have an oil painting by John B Fairbanks, who I&#8217;m assuming was the father of Avard. He lived west across the train tracks and down a lane from where my husband&#8217;s family lived on Whitlock Avenue in Salt Lake, (about 1200 East and 21st South area).</p>
<p>My father-in-law wrote on the back of the painting (abt 10&#215;13) &#8220;This oil painting, done by John B Fairbanks, was given to John and Enid Ward because they let a younger Fairbanks use the garage or at least park his car on Whitlock Avenue during the winters.&#8221;</p>
<p>The painting is of the lane looking down toward the Fairbanks homestead, apparently a spring scene as there are blossoms on some of the trees. On the back of the painting is also written, &#8220;Our winter sledding hill.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maurine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ardis, I just did a doubletake on the picture, too. It is really a cool photo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis, I just did a doubletake on the picture, too. It is really a cool photo.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did a doubletake on the picture, Rick, but I&#039;m looking forward to reading the article. Thanks for the link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a doubletake on the picture, Rick, but I&#8217;m looking forward to reading the article. Thanks for the link.</p>
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