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	<title>Comments on: Talks That Work: Charles H. Hart, 1909</title>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For you, Ray, all is forgiven. Always. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For you, Ray, all is forgiven. Always. <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just re-read #15 and can&#039;t believe all the grammatical and spelling mistakes.  Chalk it up to whatever you want, dear lady, but please pardon me for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just re-read #15 and can&#8217;t believe all the grammatical and spelling mistakes.  Chalk it up to whatever you want, dear lady, but please pardon me for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rameumptom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rameumptom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7: Pessimistic?  Ardis, I would prefer the term &quot;realistic.&quot;  ;)

The reality is, most units do have some good speakers. Sadly, many bishops somehow think they need to have every member in the ward speak at least once a year, whether they are the type to actually prepare for it, or not.  I would prefer the bishops figure out who their best dozen speakers are an primarily rely on them for talks. For others who are interested in speaking, I would then have them attend a teaching class, based upon Teaching, No Greater Call.

I am convinced that a one hour in-service meeting once a quarter doesn&#039;t do the trick. If teaching is as important as the Church says it is (and I believe it is), then we should put our efforts towards improving it in our units.

Gerald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7: Pessimistic?  Ardis, I would prefer the term &#8220;realistic.&#8221;  <img src='http://www.keepapitchinin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The reality is, most units do have some good speakers. Sadly, many bishops somehow think they need to have every member in the ward speak at least once a year, whether they are the type to actually prepare for it, or not.  I would prefer the bishops figure out who their best dozen speakers are an primarily rely on them for talks. For others who are interested in speaking, I would then have them attend a teaching class, based upon Teaching, No Greater Call.</p>
<p>I am convinced that a one hour in-service meeting once a quarter doesn&#8217;t do the trick. If teaching is as important as the Church says it is (and I believe it is), then we should put our efforts towards improving it in our units.</p>
<p>Gerald</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Boysen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Boysen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 Imagine that, a youth speaker with more than a two minute talk! Was it any good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 Imagine that, a youth speaker with more than a two minute talk! Was it any good?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 - Bruce, I love your last paragraph.  It really is about leadership in many ways. 

Our current and most recent bishops both have stressed to each speaker that, other than the sacrament itself, their talks will be the main factors in whether or not those in attendance will fill the spirit and grow from the meeting.  They do it lovingly and gently, but they lay the burden on the speakers directly (including the youth speakers) and expect them to measure up.  

It makes a difference, and it has been &lt;strong&gt;wonderful&lt;/strong&gt; to see the impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 &#8211; Bruce, I love your last paragraph.  It really is about leadership in many ways. </p>
<p>Our current and most recent bishops both have stressed to each speaker that, other than the sacrament itself, their talks will be the main factors in whether or not those in attendance will fill the spirit and grow from the meeting.  They do it lovingly and gently, but they lay the burden on the speakers directly (including the youth speakers) and expect them to measure up.  </p>
<p>It makes a difference, and it has been <strong>wonderful</strong> to see the impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great discussion -- thanks, and keep it up.

The old &lt;em&gt;Instructor&lt;/em&gt; used to publish a couple of 2-1/2 minute talks in almost every issue, to serve as models for other wards. You wouldn&#039;t dare have just stood there and plagiarized such a printed talk, I think, because everybody would have known where it came from. That&#039;s in contrast to today, where rehashing a conference talk is considered good form in many places. 

We can do better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great discussion &#8212; thanks, and keep it up.</p>
<p>The old <em>Instructor</em> used to publish a couple of 2-1/2 minute talks in almost every issue, to serve as models for other wards. You wouldn&#8217;t dare have just stood there and plagiarized such a printed talk, I think, because everybody would have known where it came from. That&#8217;s in contrast to today, where rehashing a conference talk is considered good form in many places. </p>
<p>We can do better!</p>
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		<title>By: bfwebster</title>
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		<dc:creator>bfwebster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Fern -- I actually think that was an outstanding talk. Maybe not lyric or poetic, but certainly compelling, powerful, and very much to the point. 

Most of all, he opens with several true, emotionally compelling anecdotes, which waken our sympathies and fill us with admiration for those seeking to recover the bodies those who had drowned -- and then puts us right in their position, but with a chance to do an even greater good. It is emotionally powerful without being manipulative or kitschy. 

And it was blessedly short. I think one of the great losses of the consolidated schedule is the disappearance of 2 1/2 minute talks (these were given during Sunday School opening exercises, and were typically given by teenagers). In fact, it&#039;s precisely the members who get up to the pulpit and say, &quot;I really don&#039;t have that much to say&quot; that I worry the most about, because they are the ones who tend to go on and on feeling that somehow longer == better. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://adventures-in-mormonism.com/2008/02/27/managing-mormon-meetings/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;As I&#039;ve written elsewhere&lt;/a&gt;, one of my former bishops, Lou Hampton (for whom I was a counselor), would take all the sacrament meeting speakers aside and explain just how long they should speak, when (on the clock) they should end by, and let them know that he &lt;strong&gt;would&lt;/strong&gt; let them know if they were going over time. And he did, even to high council speakers (as he put it, &quot;I&#039;m still the presiding authority.&quot;). I miss those days. ..bruce..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Fern &#8212; I actually think that was an outstanding talk. Maybe not lyric or poetic, but certainly compelling, powerful, and very much to the point. </p>
<p>Most of all, he opens with several true, emotionally compelling anecdotes, which waken our sympathies and fill us with admiration for those seeking to recover the bodies those who had drowned &#8212; and then puts us right in their position, but with a chance to do an even greater good. It is emotionally powerful without being manipulative or kitschy. </p>
<p>And it was blessedly short. I think one of the great losses of the consolidated schedule is the disappearance of 2 1/2 minute talks (these were given during Sunday School opening exercises, and were typically given by teenagers). In fact, it&#8217;s precisely the members who get up to the pulpit and say, &#8220;I really don&#8217;t have that much to say&#8221; that I worry the most about, because they are the ones who tend to go on and on feeling that somehow longer == better. </p>
<p><a href="http://adventures-in-mormonism.com/2008/02/27/managing-mormon-meetings/" rel="nofollow">As I&#8217;ve written elsewhere</a>, one of my former bishops, Lou Hampton (for whom I was a counselor), would take all the sacrament meeting speakers aside and explain just how long they should speak, when (on the clock) they should end by, and let them know that he <strong>would</strong> let them know if they were going over time. And he did, even to high council speakers (as he put it, &#8220;I&#8217;m still the presiding authority.&#8221;). I miss those days. ..bruce..</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome, Steve Jones.  But what did you say in your 2 minutes, by the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awesome, Steve Jones.  But what did you say in your 2 minutes, by the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the stake sunday school president I was invited to speak on high counsel Sunday.  The high counselor made it clear that I was was to finish at 15 before the hour.  The youth speaker went nearly 20 minutes and finished at 17 before the hour.  I finished at 15 before the hour as requested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the stake sunday school president I was invited to speak on high counsel Sunday.  The high counselor made it clear that I was was to finish at 15 before the hour.  The youth speaker went nearly 20 minutes and finished at 17 before the hour.  I finished at 15 before the hour as requested.</p>
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		<title>By: Fern RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That talk by Elder Hart was exceptional.  What kept me on the edge of my seat was the hope that I would find out what happened in the end, in each of the situations reported in the beginning.  Then, finally, to realize the point of the whole talk--how very much more important it is to aid in the salvation of souls, than the very important task of bringing comfort to the families of those who lost their lives--had a profound effect on me.

It was concise, as well.  Some of my favorite parts of the Book of Mormon are those where the writers could overcome their natural wordiness and get to the point:  Omni 1:26, for example, and most of the chapters of Moroni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That talk by Elder Hart was exceptional.  What kept me on the edge of my seat was the hope that I would find out what happened in the end, in each of the situations reported in the beginning.  Then, finally, to realize the point of the whole talk&#8211;how very much more important it is to aid in the salvation of souls, than the very important task of bringing comfort to the families of those who lost their lives&#8211;had a profound effect on me.</p>
<p>It was concise, as well.  Some of my favorite parts of the Book of Mormon are those where the writers could overcome their natural wordiness and get to the point:  Omni 1:26, for example, and most of the chapters of Moroni.</p>
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