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	<title>Comments on: Ads You’re Not Going to See Again Anytime Soon &#8211; Chapter 8</title>
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		<title>By: Bill MacKinnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to show you that Utah&#039;s political races were not the only ones in the country with strange ads, endorsements, and claims flourishing, during the mid-20th century, when Hon. Endicott Peabody ran for Governor of the Commonwealth, it was said that he was the only gubernatorial candidate in Massachusetts history who could lay claim to having had three towns named after him:
**Endicott, Massachusetts
**Peabody, Massachusetts
**Marblehead, Massachusetts]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to show you that Utah&#8217;s political races were not the only ones in the country with strange ads, endorsements, and claims flourishing, during the mid-20th century, when Hon. Endicott Peabody ran for Governor of the Commonwealth, it was said that he was the only gubernatorial candidate in Massachusetts history who could lay claim to having had three towns named after him:<br />
**Endicott, Massachusetts<br />
**Peabody, Massachusetts<br />
**Marblehead, Massachusetts</p>
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		<title>By: Norbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many grandchildren did Heber C Kimball have? Given the number of wives, it couldn&#039;t be too exclusive of a claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many grandchildren did Heber C Kimball have? Given the number of wives, it couldn&#8217;t be too exclusive of a claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Velikiye, I have no reason to suspect (and lots of reasons to dispute) that Nephi Morris was anything other than a law-abiding, sincere, practicing Latter-day Saint. I&#039;m sure the guys are just playing with language -- there can be such a difference between the connotations of some words a century ago and now, that when you pull something out of context, something perfectly normal and upright and praiseworthy in 1916 might suggest today that someone was in need of close monitoring (i.e., by electronic ankle bracelet). The comments joked about that, not about Nephi Morris personally.

I&#039;m sure nobody meant to suggest any ill of Nephi Morris. The good works listed by Jeff in #2 are an indication of his character and the life he led.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Velikiye, I have no reason to suspect (and lots of reasons to dispute) that Nephi Morris was anything other than a law-abiding, sincere, practicing Latter-day Saint. I&#8217;m sure the guys are just playing with language &#8212; there can be such a difference between the connotations of some words a century ago and now, that when you pull something out of context, something perfectly normal and upright and praiseworthy in 1916 might suggest today that someone was in need of close monitoring (i.e., by electronic ankle bracelet). The comments joked about that, not about Nephi Morris personally.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure nobody meant to suggest any ill of Nephi Morris. The good works listed by Jeff in #2 are an indication of his character and the life he led.</p>
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		<title>By: Velikiye Kniaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velikiye Kniaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: #12 &amp; Kevin F

   What is an &#039;ankle bracelet&#039; candidate, pray tell? Being well into middle age these youthful euphemistic innuendoes escape me. Ardis, are you aware of any unsavory elements in the life of Nephi Morris to which this might apply?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #12 &amp; Kevin F</p>
<p>   What is an &#8216;ankle bracelet&#8217; candidate, pray tell? Being well into middle age these youthful euphemistic innuendoes escape me. Ardis, are you aware of any unsavory elements in the life of Nephi Morris to which this might apply?</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And (sigh) the dates of the ads were of course 1916. I&#039;ll fix that in the post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And (sigh) the dates of the ads were of course 1916. I&#8217;ll fix that in the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, I just found your last comment in the spam filter -- I do not understand why that thing takes such a dislike to you!

I have heard so often that Utah history was free of anti-Semitism (&quot;hey, look! we elected a Jewish governor!&quot;) that I was not at all aware either of the &quot;anti-Semitic overtones&quot; of the campaign (the Utah History Encyclopedia, by the way, is a reliable general source) and didn&#039;t pick up the cue from the ad.

I&#039;ll scan through the Salt Lake papers for that election and see what I can find in the next few weeks. Some of my best projects have been doing research poached from other people&#039;s good ideas, like this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I just found your last comment in the spam filter &#8212; I do not understand why that thing takes such a dislike to you!</p>
<p>I have heard so often that Utah history was free of anti-Semitism (&#8220;hey, look! we elected a Jewish governor!&#8221;) that I was not at all aware either of the &#8220;anti-Semitic overtones&#8221; of the campaign (the Utah History Encyclopedia, by the way, is a reliable general source) and didn&#8217;t pick up the cue from the ad.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll scan through the Salt Lake papers for that election and see what I can find in the next few weeks. Some of my best projects have been doing research poached from other people&#8217;s good ideas, like this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stories about the Utah gubernatorial election of 1916--in particular whether there were issues raised about (1) Bamberger&#039;s Jewishness and (2) Bamberger&#039;s stand on Prohibition.

I did find this at a site called &quot;Utah History Encyclopedia&quot;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Despite an election with anti-Semitic overtones, and a successful challenge in the Republican convention by Nephi Morris to incumbent William Spry, who lost support because of his veto of a prohibition bill, Bamberger defeated Morris by a vote of 78,502 to 59,522. Socialist candidate F.M. McHugh polled 4,391.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This suggests a couple of things:  first, that the first two advertisements were from 1916--either that or the church magazines printed their ads awfully late; second, that Nephi Morris&#039;s claim to be a &quot;one hundred percent American&quot; may well have been intentionally anti-Semitic, or at least intended to pull in the anti-Semitic voters (although Bamberger&#039;s being an immigrant--born in Germany--may have been the target of Morris&#039;s ad); and third, that the Bamberger statement about Prohibition may have been a slap at the apparent Republican change of heart about Prohibition.  (I confess I don&#039;t know if Morris&#039;s attitude was different from his party&#039;s or just from the incumbent governor&#039;s, whom he defeated in the primary.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stories about the Utah gubernatorial election of 1916&#8211;in particular whether there were issues raised about (1) Bamberger&#8217;s Jewishness and (2) Bamberger&#8217;s stand on Prohibition.</p>
<p>I did find this at a site called &#8220;Utah History Encyclopedia&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Despite an election with anti-Semitic overtones, and a successful challenge in the Republican convention by Nephi Morris to incumbent William Spry, who lost support because of his veto of a prohibition bill, Bamberger defeated Morris by a vote of 78,502 to 59,522. Socialist candidate F.M. McHugh polled 4,391.</p></blockquote>
<p>This suggests a couple of things:  first, that the first two advertisements were from 1916&#8211;either that or the church magazines printed their ads awfully late; second, that Nephi Morris&#8217;s claim to be a &#8220;one hundred percent American&#8221; may well have been intentionally anti-Semitic, or at least intended to pull in the anti-Semitic voters (although Bamberger&#8217;s being an immigrant&#8211;born in Germany&#8211;may have been the target of Morris&#8217;s ad); and third, that the Bamberger statement about Prohibition may have been a slap at the apparent Republican change of heart about Prohibition.  (I confess I don&#8217;t know if Morris&#8217;s attitude was different from his party&#8217;s or just from the incumbent governor&#8217;s, whom he defeated in the primary.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;(Who has access to all the SL Trib archives? Inquiring minds want to know.)&lt;/em&gt;

Not me, that&#039;s for sure. (But what in particular are you looking for?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>(Who has access to all the SL Trib archives? Inquiring minds want to know.)</em></p>
<p>Not me, that&#8217;s for sure. (But what in particular are you looking for?)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

The Bamberger &quot;Prohibitionist by principle&quot; may have been to counter claims that he had just become a dry to try to get the Mormon vote.  Because he wasn&#039;t a Mormon, some might have thought otherwise.  

(Who has access to all the SL Trib archives?  Inquiring minds want to know.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>The Bamberger &#8220;Prohibitionist by principle&#8221; may have been to counter claims that he had just become a dry to try to get the Mormon vote.  Because he wasn&#8217;t a Mormon, some might have thought otherwise.  </p>
<p>(Who has access to all the SL Trib archives?  Inquiring minds want to know.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simon Bamberger was, as you all probably know, a Jew--interesting that he was elected governor of Utah several years before Herbert Lehman was elected New York&#039;s first Jewish governor.

That does make Nephi Morris&#039;s statement that he is &quot;one hundred percent American&quot; slightly troubling.  Or maybe a little more than slightly troubling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Bamberger was, as you all probably know, a Jew&#8211;interesting that he was elected governor of Utah several years before Herbert Lehman was elected New York&#8217;s first Jewish governor.</p>
<p>That does make Nephi Morris&#8217;s statement that he is &#8220;one hundred percent American&#8221; slightly troubling.  Or maybe a little more than slightly troubling.</p>
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