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	<title>Comments on: Ads You&#8217;re Not Going to See Again Anytime Soon &#8212; Chapter 4</title>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick comment since the topic was brought up. I am a convert to the LDS church and prior was an Episcopalian. Wine was used in communion and given to old and young alike. AND we all drank from the same cup. Ew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick comment since the topic was brought up. I am a convert to the LDS church and prior was an Episcopalian. Wine was used in communion and given to old and young alike. AND we all drank from the same cup. Ew.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Justin.  20 mm makes a lot more sense than 8mm (or 7.62mm, which seems a more common size for German small arms).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Justin.  20 mm makes a lot more sense than 8mm (or 7.62mm, which seems a more common size for German small arms).</p>
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		<title>By: Best of the Week 6: Academic LDS : Mormon Metaphysics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of the Week 6: Academic LDS : Mormon Metaphysics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had up one of my favorite posts of the week with old advertisements for sacrament trays. I suspect most didn&#8217;t even know these were ordered by spec by the Church as a whole until [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had up one of my favorite posts of the week with old advertisements for sacrament trays. I suspect most didn&#8217;t even know these were ordered by spec by the Church as a whole until [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read of servicemen in the Pacific &quot;making sacrament cups from 20mm shell casings, and a water pitcher from a 40mm shell casing.&quot;  John L. Hart, &quot;Faith Overcomes Evil of World War II, Leads to Growth Worldwide,&quot; &lt;em&gt;Church News&lt;/em&gt;, Aug. 19, 1995.  

The July 1998 &lt;em&gt;Ensign&lt;/em&gt; featured a photo of a sacrament tray made by LDS sailors on board the USS Intrepid.  They also used 20mm shell casings for cups. &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=26ff605ff590c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Update: USS Intrepid Sacrament Tray&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; Ensign, July 1998, 80.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read of servicemen in the Pacific &#8220;making sacrament cups from 20mm shell casings, and a water pitcher from a 40mm shell casing.&#8221;  John L. Hart, &#8220;Faith Overcomes Evil of World War II, Leads to Growth Worldwide,&#8221; <em>Church News</em>, Aug. 19, 1995.  </p>
<p>The July 1998 <em>Ensign</em> featured a photo of a sacrament tray made by LDS sailors on board the USS Intrepid.  They also used 20mm shell casings for cups. &#8220;<a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=26ff605ff590c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1" rel="nofollow">Update: USS Intrepid Sacrament Tray</a>,&#8221; Ensign, July 1998, 80.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s a true story, JPaul, it shows the superiority of the English system of measures.  8 mm is really small, but .50 caliber would be a reasonble size for a sacrament cup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s a true story, JPaul, it shows the superiority of the English system of measures.  8 mm is really small, but .50 caliber would be a reasonble size for a sacrament cup.</p>
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		<title>By: JPaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone else heard the story that during WWII a branch in Germany used 8 mm shells for the cups in a sacrament trays? 
It sounds like a great story-- turning swords into plough-shares and all that but I&#039;m a a bit dubious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else heard the story that during WWII a branch in Germany used 8 mm shells for the cups in a sacrament trays?<br />
It sounds like a great story&#8211; turning swords into plough-shares and all that but I&#8217;m a a bit dubious.</p>
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		<title>By: Velikiye Kniaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velikiye Kniaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis,
   Whatever happened to that eclectic collection of items that was once housed in the old Bureau of Information building that stood on the southeast corner of Temple Square? In many ways, that &#039;exhibition&#039; appeared to be the equivalent of &#039;Grandma&#039;s attic&#039;. One of my favorites was the icing (yes, folks, the same as the ubiquitous cake topping) replica of the Salt Lake Temple. I remembered that the icing temple had started to gather dust and was beginning to look a little dingy. But even in that it mirrored the real Temple which needed a steam cleaning when I first saw it in January 1967. If memory serves me correctly there were minerals, stuffed animals, artifacts from the South Pacific native cultures as well as objects from our own native American tribes here in the American West. It was a curious montage of items which I hope did not end up consigned to the dust bins after the Bureau closed. Perhaps you can enlighten those of us who are old enough to remember The Bureau and it&#039;s remarkable contents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis,<br />
   Whatever happened to that eclectic collection of items that was once housed in the old Bureau of Information building that stood on the southeast corner of Temple Square? In many ways, that &#8216;exhibition&#8217; appeared to be the equivalent of &#8216;Grandma&#8217;s attic&#8217;. One of my favorites was the icing (yes, folks, the same as the ubiquitous cake topping) replica of the Salt Lake Temple. I remembered that the icing temple had started to gather dust and was beginning to look a little dingy. But even in that it mirrored the real Temple which needed a steam cleaning when I first saw it in January 1967. If memory serves me correctly there were minerals, stuffed animals, artifacts from the South Pacific native cultures as well as objects from our own native American tribes here in the American West. It was a curious montage of items which I hope did not end up consigned to the dust bins after the Bureau closed. Perhaps you can enlighten those of us who are old enough to remember The Bureau and it&#8217;s remarkable contents.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do remember in the 70&#039;s when I was a kid that the Church offered both white plastic trays and then more expensive metal ones.  (Our ward oddly had both plus a couple of those old 30&#039;s ones as well)  There also was that switching between paper and plastic cups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do remember in the 70&#8242;s when I was a kid that the Church offered both white plastic trays and then more expensive metal ones.  (Our ward oddly had both plus a couple of those old 30&#8242;s ones as well)  There also was that switching between paper and plastic cups.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark, that&#039;s something I wonder, too, so I&#039;ll have to do a little looking around. I&#039;m thinking Jacob Straud and his trays would make a good post, especially since I&#039;ve found a couple more ads today, one of which includes the letter Justin reported. I&#039;ll try to have the central-supply answer by the time I do that post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark, that&#8217;s something I wonder, too, so I&#8217;ll have to do a little looking around. I&#8217;m thinking Jacob Straud and his trays would make a good post, especially since I&#8217;ve found a couple more ads today, one of which includes the letter Justin reported. I&#8217;ll try to have the central-supply answer by the time I do that post.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity when were sacrament trays centralized by the Church?  I&#039;d assume the 70s if only because the move to the Ensign sans ads from the Improvement Era with ads changed the market quite a bit.  (Didn&#039;t distribution centers open then?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity when were sacrament trays centralized by the Church?  I&#8217;d assume the 70s if only because the move to the Ensign sans ads from the Improvement Era with ads changed the market quite a bit.  (Didn&#8217;t distribution centers open then?)</p>
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