Comments on: Latter-day Saint Images, 1924 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/ Where our past is never very long ago Fri, 03 Jul 2015 16:51:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steve C. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-13754 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:28:29 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-13754 Marni: What an incredible find! I would love to flip though the pages of the album.

The 1920s was the golden age for Mormonism in Germany. The LDS Church was growing at a rapid pace. The second generation of German Mormons was coming into its own. The missions were split which, in the eyes of the Mormons, was indicative of the Church’s growth. Church leaders in Utah were very optimistic about the prospects for the Mormons in Germany.

Marni, your find really would epitimize this golden era. Thank you for letting us know. I hope that you will scan some images and post them on this site. Thank you very much for making the effort to preserve this historical treasure.

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By: Researcher http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-13753 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:10:38 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-13753 The German says:
“Kirche Jesu Christi der Heiligen der Letzten Tage” “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints”

“Versammlung” “Meeting”

“Eingang zum Saal” “Entrance (or Access) to Hall”

“Eintritt frei” “Admission free”

And, if it is the same family, the Radichels have been mentioned before on this blog as being part of the branches in Brooklyn or Manhattan in the early 1900s.

What an interesting find. I’ll echo Ardis’ comment. And any indication of the name of the missionary?

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By: Marni Lemon http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-13752 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:39:31 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-13752 I was visiting family in the Creston,BC area and entered my favorite antique store. I found and bought a beautiful photo album with about a hundred photos of a young man and his mission with the Church. In the album he writes ” In fond remembrance of the happy days spent in the Swiss- German Mission” the dates and places are August 1923- March 1925. He has the cities of Berlin, Stettin, Kiel, Potsdam,..etc. He has photos of himself with numorous people in many different places. I bought the album not knowing all the contents of it.I had only looked at the first couple of pages and there were very old pictures of New York, a city which our family loves to go to, and which we had just gotten back from a week prior to being in Creston. There was a ship that he has a photo of that was of great interest to me because my maternal grandfather had come to Canada from Ireland on the same ship that this young man had taken to cross the ocean going in the opposite direction to start his new life as a missionary.When I got the album home And read the notations he had at the botttom of the photos I realised this young man was Mormon. There is a photo of him that reads”Joseph Smith Farm, Jackson County” also a photo “Temple Site, Missouri” . He traveled to Niagra Falls ,went to the Statue of Liberty in New York.A photo of him with 10 or so others reads”The gang that conquered Europe,Mission House Liverpool July 1923″ He tours around England Then goes off to Germany. He has photos of San Soucci and The Kaisers Palace and various German landmarks. He has commemts on people photographed ” released missionaries from England” Freinds at the Landsberger Conference”, ” Berlin Conference March 1924″, “Radichels Boarding House” . There is a very large group of men of various ages with the caption” The first gang of Mormon missionaries to have their picture taken on the steps of the Reichtag Building March 1924″,also ” Boys from Hannover, Hamburg, and Berlin Conferences March 1924 Berlin. He refers to a picture of about 20 men as the “Hamburg Hams” another photo reads “The Bishops Grandsons” also photos of a building reads” Veiws of the jail in Stettin where former Mormon Missionaries used to get free meals” There are alot of peoples names listed but I dont think it would be appropriate to mention names. The photos are a beautiful reflection of a joyous time in post WW1 Germany in this young mans life.I feel blessed to have shared in his journey 85 years after the fact. I am a happy Catholic and my Brother is A Later Day Saint and words cant describe what a wonderful time we had speculating on the life this man lead after he returned home from his mission. I still remember when my brother came home from his mission to Kentucky and Ohio, he was so grown up but still my beloved brother. I would love to post some of these photos of this album some day. There is a photo of the young man and a freind out front of a building and he is holding flowers the photo caption reads “prize winner” There is a sign in behind his head that reads KIRCH JESU CHRISTI dur HEILIGENDER LETZTEN TAGE >versammlung< , Eingang zum Saal, Einlritt frei." There are two stamps in the first page that read similar to the sign in the photo but the stamps have more info about the location. If anyone could translate the bit of German in the quotation marks I would greatly appreciate it. God Bless Marni

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By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-13751 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:09:53 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-13751 Lovely, Marni! You have to wonder how material like this leaves a family … I suppose through clearing out personal belongings at the time of death, but how nobody in the family recognizes the value of such family history I do not understand.

Should you ever decide it no longer fits your personal collection, I hope you’ll remember that the church archives at Salt Lake City would welcome the donation and would carefully preserve the album and the history it records.

Also, if you’d be willing to scan and send some of the photos to me, I’d love to put up a guest post from you showing them.

[P.S. – I tried to contact you via email, but there may be a typo in the address left.]

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By: Marni Lemon http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-13750 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:00:13 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-13750 I was visiting family in the Creston,BC area and entered my favorite antique store. I found and bought a beautiful photo album with about a hundred photos of a young man and his mission with the Church. In the album he writes ” In fond remembrance of the happy days spent in the Swiss- German Mission” the dates and places are August 1923- March 1925. He has the cities of Berlin, Stettin, Kiel, Potsdam,..etc. He has photos of himself with numorous people in many different places. I bought the album not knowing all the contents of it.I had only looked at the first couple of pages and there were very old pictures of New York, a city which our family loves to go to, and which we had just gotten back from a week prior to being in Creston. There was a ship that he has a photo of that was of great interest to me because my maternal grandfather had come to Canada from Ireland on the same ship that this young man had taken to cross the ocean going in the opposite direction to start his new life as a missionary.When i got it home And read the notations he had at the botttom of the photos i realised this young man was mormon.There is a photo of him that reads”Joseph Smith Farm, Jackson County” also a photo “Temple Site, Missouri” . He traveled to Niagra Falls ,went to the Statue of Liberty in New York.A photo of him with 10 or so others reads”The gang that conquered Europe,Mission House Liverpool July 1923″ He tours around England Then goes off to Germany. He has photos of San Soucci and The Kaisers Palace and various German landmarks. He has commemts on people photographed ” released missionaries from England” Freinds at the Landsberger Conference”, ” Berlin Conference March 1924″, “Radichels Boarding House” . There is a very large group of men of various ages with the caption” The first gang of Mormon missionaries to have their picture taken on the steps of the Reichtag Building March 1924″,also ” Boys from Hannover, Hamburg, and Berlin Conferences March 1924 Berlin. He refers to a picture of about 20 men as the “Hamburg Hams” another photo reads “The Bishops Grandsons”

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By: Ardis E. Parshall http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-6339 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:10:18 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-6339 Mark Claussner, thanks for stopping by — we like good Lutherans around here. :)

Latter-day Saints were not the direct targets of Nazi persecution in anything like the same way that Jews or Jehovah’s Witnesses or other groups were, although there were individual exceptions. Some Jewish converts to Mormonism were treated the same as others of Jewish heritage. Many of us are rather proud of Hellmuth Hubener, an LDS teenager who was executed for printing and distributing anti-Nazi handbills. But generally we were able to function as a church in a low-key way during the war.

Keepa has a couple of readers with special knowledge of the church in Germany, and particularly during the war. I’ll make sure they are aware of your comment in case there is anything else they want to add.

I’m glad your father lived to remember that night, and that you take an interest in your family history. Family history is a very important aspect of LDS life.

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By: Mark Claussner http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-6338 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:47:02 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-6338 Although I am not a member of the LDS (good Lutheran )I am very interested in the wealth of information about The LDS in Chemnitz. My father is from Chemnitz and I never would have guessed at the high number of saints in Germany. Was the LDS persecuted by the Nazi party? Note of interest: The huge bust of Karl Marx in the center of the city, sits exactly on top of what was The Heinzig jewelery store. My great grandfathers store took a direct bomb hit in March of 1945. My father remembers that night very well.

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By: Michelle Glauser http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-3367 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:18:49 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-3367 Steve C.–

Thanks! Where did you get all that info? I love Saxony and all the people I meet here. I wonder why the work doesn’t move as quickly as it did then. I guess the long-term political status had big effects on people. Religion seems to be very dead and if people do belong to a church, it’s more cultural than anything.

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By: Steve C. http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-3366 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:21:37 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-3366 Michelle:

Yes, Saxony (Sachsen) had one of the highest, if not the highest concentration (perhaps better stated, highest number) of LDS outside of the intermountain west. That said, one should remember that the total number of LDS in Germany at that time was still quite low. In all of Germany going into the 1930s there was on the order of about 13,000 members living in two missions–the German-Austrian Mission and the Swiss-German Mission. During the 1930s, Germany had the distinction of having more LDS than any other country except for the USA. Canada came in a close third. There were many convert baptisms in Germany during the 1920s and a some out-migration to the USA as well. However, in the 1930s, as political and internation tensions increased, the number of convert baptisms decreased. On the other hand, during the 1930s, due to economic conditions, German laws that hindered emigration, and the Church telling (sometimes only half-heartedly) members to remain in their own countries, LDS migration to the USA virtually ceased. Of course, during World War II, there was no migration of German Saints to the USA. However, after the war there was a great upheaval as many German Saints fled from the Soviet zone (Saxony was part of the Soviet zone) to the west, ending up either remaining in western Germany or continuing on to Utah. Nevertheless, between 4-6,000 LDS remained in eastern Germany.

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By: Michelle Glauser http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/07/16/latter-day-saint-images-1924/comment-page-1/#comment-3363 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:22:12 +0000 http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=96#comment-3363 That’s cool to see Chemnitz there. You know, many saints here have told me that one of the prophets said Chemnitz (and Sachsen in general, where I am) had the highest concentration of members of the Church outside of Utah. Unfortunately (well, for us, I guess), most of them moved to America during or after the war. There are still a lot of strong saints though.

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