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	<title>Comments on: Territorial Library: Natural Philosophy; Ethics, Logic, Rhetoric and Criticism</title>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And only &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; did they start to get a little silly? /g/ 

We&#039;ve got some other letters to choose from -- Cooperative, Volunteer, Territorial, Keepa, what else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And only <em>then</em> did they start to get a little silly? /g/ </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got some other letters to choose from &#8212; Cooperative, Volunteer, Territorial, Keepa, what else?</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a few from the dinner crew.

BLOC: Bernhisel Library Online Catalogue
BLOG: Bernhisel Library Online Guide
BULC: Bernhisel Utah Library Catalogue
Bernie Link
Project Bernie

Then they started to get a little silly, so we&#039;ll draw a veil over the remaining discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a few from the dinner crew.</p>
<p>BLOC: Bernhisel Library Online Catalogue<br />
BLOG: Bernhisel Library Online Guide<br />
BULC: Bernhisel Utah Library Catalogue<br />
Bernie Link<br />
Project Bernie</p>
<p>Then they started to get a little silly, so we&#8217;ll draw a veil over the remaining discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Edje</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Edje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis: I&#039;ve emailed you my thoughts on coordinating volunteers for the VUTLib (vyoot-lib; Virtual Utah Territorial Library) or the BLibUT (blib-uht; Blog Library for Utah Territory) or the Keepa-blib (Keepapitchinin Blog Library). (I&#039;m not sure any of these count as &quot;clever.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis: I&#8217;ve emailed you my thoughts on coordinating volunteers for the VUTLib (vyoot-lib; Virtual Utah Territorial Library) or the BLibUT (blib-uht; Blog Library for Utah Territory) or the Keepa-blib (Keepapitchinin Blog Library). (I&#8217;m not sure any of these count as &#8220;clever.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edje, I want to say that emailing me directly (AEParshall at aoldotcom or keepapitchinin at aoldotcom) would keep the comments clearer for other discussion -- but that might lead to duplicating work by everybody and I hate that idea.

Would you like to sign up for categories -- not just the sections that have been posted, but any of the catalog sections? I could email you a text file for that part of the catalog (although so far I&#039;ve only got about half of it typed up), and you could paste your URLs below the book entry and email it back to me. Once somebody has done all they care to do in one section, we could report that so that anyone else who wanted to do further checking could know they weren&#039;t duplicating work.

Or I&#039;m open to a better suggestion.

Researcher has also found material on some of the authors that we could link to, if you-all want to watch for succinct biographical entries.

And somebody clever can come up with name with a cool acronym for this project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edje, I want to say that emailing me directly (AEParshall at aoldotcom or keepapitchinin at aoldotcom) would keep the comments clearer for other discussion &#8212; but that might lead to duplicating work by everybody and I hate that idea.</p>
<p>Would you like to sign up for categories &#8212; not just the sections that have been posted, but any of the catalog sections? I could email you a text file for that part of the catalog (although so far I&#8217;ve only got about half of it typed up), and you could paste your URLs below the book entry and email it back to me. Once somebody has done all they care to do in one section, we could report that so that anyone else who wanted to do further checking could know they weren&#8217;t duplicating work.</p>
<p>Or I&#8217;m open to a better suggestion.</p>
<p>Researcher has also found material on some of the authors that we could link to, if you-all want to watch for succinct biographical entries.</p>
<p>And somebody clever can come up with name with a cool acronym for this project!</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark B., one of the next catalog sections to be posted will be the periodicals. Godey&#039;s is included, although with the note that issues are missing. (There is a general note to the entire periodicals catalog that issues of everything are disappearing in the mail, especially when it comes to the more expensive and most useful periodicals.)

I&#039;m not sure who sorted the materials into sections for this catalog -- was it Bernhisel&#039;s original listing? did Staines do it in his role as librarian? was it for Brigham H. Young&#039;s convenience in setting type? Categories don&#039;t seem to be consistent or even well thought out, so if the Tattler is a periodical it isn&#039;t too surprising to find it in this part of the catalog rather than with the bulk of periodicals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark B., one of the next catalog sections to be posted will be the periodicals. Godey&#8217;s is included, although with the note that issues are missing. (There is a general note to the entire periodicals catalog that issues of everything are disappearing in the mail, especially when it comes to the more expensive and most useful periodicals.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure who sorted the materials into sections for this catalog &#8212; was it Bernhisel&#8217;s original listing? did Staines do it in his role as librarian? was it for Brigham H. Young&#8217;s convenience in setting type? Categories don&#8217;t seem to be consistent or even well thought out, so if the Tattler is a periodical it isn&#8217;t too surprising to find it in this part of the catalog rather than with the bulk of periodicals.</p>
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		<title>By: Edje</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Edje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also volunteer to googlebook for the virtual library. Should we post links in the comments or email them to you? How do you want to split up the list? I&#039;ll go ahead and begin with the TEHL, Ranke to Wiseman, and await further instructions.

Also: Google Book links can be unwieldy but (IMHO) nothing after and including the first ampersand &quot;&amp;&quot; is necessary. The short link goes to the &quot;about this book&quot; page. For example:

&lt;blockquote&gt;http://books.google.com/books?id=-qwOAAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=Ranke,+History+of+the+Popes:&lt;/blockquote&gt;
becomes 
&lt;blockquote&gt;http://books.google.com/books?id=-qwOAAAAYAAJ&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also volunteer to googlebook for the virtual library. Should we post links in the comments or email them to you? How do you want to split up the list? I&#8217;ll go ahead and begin with the TEHL, Ranke to Wiseman, and await further instructions.</p>
<p>Also: Google Book links can be unwieldy but (IMHO) nothing after and including the first ampersand &#8220;&amp;&#8221; is necessary. The short link goes to the &#8220;about this book&#8221; page. For example:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=-qwOAAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=Ranke,+History+of+the+Popes" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=-qwOAAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=Ranke,+History+of+the+Popes</a>:</p></blockquote>
<p>becomes </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=-qwOAAAAYAAJ" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=-qwOAAAAYAAJ</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have checked before I posted:

Harper&#039;s Weekly didn&#039;t begin publication until 1857, so it obviously wouldn&#039;t have been available at the time Dr. Bernhisel was gathering books for the library.

And, it was Godey&#039;s Lady&#039;s Book.  Which was available from 1830 onwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have checked before I posted:</p>
<p>Harper&#8217;s Weekly didn&#8217;t begin publication until 1857, so it obviously wouldn&#8217;t have been available at the time Dr. Bernhisel was gathering books for the library.</p>
<p>And, it was Godey&#8217;s Lady&#8217;s Book.  Which was available from 1830 onwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to find something about &lt;em&gt;Tattler&lt;/em&gt;, especially since the English gossip rag &lt;em&gt;Tatler&lt;/em&gt; doesn&#039;t seem to fit into &quot;Ethics, Logic, Rhetoric and Criticism,&quot; I found only the following, from a PBS American Experience website:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In just four years in Manhattan, Whitman works briefly at the Tattler, the Daily Plebeian, the Statesman, the Mirror, the Democrat, the Sun and the Star.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Anybody know anything more about this?  I suppose it was a periodical.

That raises another question:  did Dr Bernhisel subscribe to any periodicals?  What about Harper&#039;s Weekly, or a Godey&#039;s Ladies Book?  Were those read by people in Utah?  Is there any way to find circulation information by state/territory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to find something about <em>Tattler</em>, especially since the English gossip rag <em>Tatler</em> doesn&#8217;t seem to fit into &#8220;Ethics, Logic, Rhetoric and Criticism,&#8221; I found only the following, from a PBS American Experience website:</p>
<blockquote><p>In just four years in Manhattan, Whitman works briefly at the Tattler, the Daily Plebeian, the Statesman, the Mirror, the Democrat, the Sun and the Star.</p></blockquote>
<p>Anybody know anything more about this?  I suppose it was a periodical.</p>
<p>That raises another question:  did Dr Bernhisel subscribe to any periodicals?  What about Harper&#8217;s Weekly, or a Godey&#8217;s Ladies Book?  Were those read by people in Utah?  Is there any way to find circulation information by state/territory?</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in!</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2008/06/21/territorial-library-natural-philosophy-ethics-logic-rhetoric-and-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m groveling for volunteers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m groveling for volunteers!</p>
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