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	<title>Comments on: Fisher Sanford Harris: Non-Mormon Peacemaker in Zion</title>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Sheridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Sheridan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fisher Harris was my great-grandfather, and family history had it that he left Virginia because he had lost everything during the Civil War. Apparently he owned a plantation and had slaves, all of which were lost. So, he was an economic migrant. 

As to why he ended up in Salt Lake, I have no idea. But it sounds as though he had a sharp mind and spotted a good opportunity when it presented itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisher Harris was my great-grandfather, and family history had it that he left Virginia because he had lost everything during the Civil War. Apparently he owned a plantation and had slaves, all of which were lost. So, he was an economic migrant. </p>
<p>As to why he ended up in Salt Lake, I have no idea. But it sounds as though he had a sharp mind and spotted a good opportunity when it presented itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Best of the Week: Academic LDS : Mormon Metaphysics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of the Week: Academic LDS : Mormon Metaphysics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Her blog ought be on your &#8220;always read&#8221; list. The ones I found most interesting were on non-Mormon Fisher Harris who was a beloved non-Mormon in 19th century Utah. Her responses to various papers on the Mountain [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Her blog ought be on your &#8220;always read&#8221; list. The ones I found most interesting were on non-Mormon Fisher Harris who was a beloved non-Mormon in 19th century Utah. Her responses to various papers on the Mountain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“He did what he could to bring unity and harmony into the relations between the citizens of this community. If there is a special blessing pronounced upon the peace-makers, Mr. Harris will not lose his reward.”  

If I can die with that on my marker, I will have lived the type of life I want to live.  

Again, thanks, Ardis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“He did what he could to bring unity and harmony into the relations between the citizens of this community. If there is a special blessing pronounced upon the peace-makers, Mr. Harris will not lose his reward.”  </p>
<p>If I can die with that on my marker, I will have lived the type of life I want to live.  </p>
<p>Again, thanks, Ardis.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, thanks, Researcher. If I had paid more attention to the business school detail, I would have recognized him right off. I do have a hard time remembering that he was ever a Gentile, though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, thanks, Researcher. If I had paid more attention to the business school detail, I would have recognized him right off. I do have a hard time remembering that he was ever a Gentile, though!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, you&#039;ve run into him and mentioned him in a post or two. John Morgan...served as Southern States Mission president for a number of years during Reconstruction, complete with run-ins with the KKK and other difficulties of that period. No one new; just someone else who came to SLC as a Gentile and decided to stay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you&#8217;ve run into him and mentioned him in a post or two. John Morgan&#8230;served as Southern States Mission president for a number of years during Reconstruction, complete with run-ins with the KKK and other difficulties of that period. No one new; just someone else who came to SLC as a Gentile and decided to stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ardis, thanks for this and your many other fascinating posts. I hope you can keep up the pace. To quote a recent comment by someone wise, &quot;I hope that as we move into a new new Mormon history that we won’t allow a division between theorists and fact-finders. We need each other.&quot;

P.S. It was good to see you at MHA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis, thanks for this and your many other fascinating posts. I hope you can keep up the pace. To quote a recent comment by someone wise, &#8220;I hope that as we move into a new new Mormon history that we won’t allow a division between theorists and fact-finders. We need each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>P.S. It was good to see you at MHA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;m sure the future memorialization is what kept him here! /grin/  He really is one of my all-time favorite &quot;neighbors.&quot; 

My southern ancestors&#039; experiences suggest to me that even 25 years after the end of the Civil War, Reconstruction was still a terrible burden on most ordinary southerners, making a fresh start in the west an attractive option. Who was your ancestor, Researcher? He sounds like the kind of man I should keep an eye on, and may even have already run into.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m sure the future memorialization is what kept him here! /grin/  He really is one of my all-time favorite &#8220;neighbors.&#8221; </p>
<p>My southern ancestors&#8217; experiences suggest to me that even 25 years after the end of the Civil War, Reconstruction was still a terrible burden on most ordinary southerners, making a fresh start in the west an attractive option. Who was your ancestor, Researcher? He sounds like the kind of man I should keep an eye on, and may even have already run into.</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my ancestors also relocated to Salt Lake City as a Gentile. A former Union soldier, he had attempted to start a business school in the South, but it did not work and his career as a carpetbagger was very short. 

After that, he took a job which took him through SLC. He also decided to stay. He started a business college and eventually joined the church.

Unfortunately in none of his writings do I recall an explanation of why he chose SLC.

On the surface, the answer as to why he came and stayed looks like Harris&#039; story. They were both respectable, principled, talented speakers, politically ambitious, interested in public relations, interested in the business community.

Salt Lake City was a new community. It gave both of them an opportunity to use their formidable talents. 

However, I also like to think that there were other factors. The nice climate. The respectable people. Compared to the South (I&#039;m having to draw on my high school education here), there would have been a lack of corruption, a lack of ossified social structure, a lack of violence and a lack of day to day exposure to bigotry and racism.

My ancestor also died early. In his case it was 1894. He was a Republican (the party of Lincoln for this Union soldier) but he was also a very close associate of BH Roberts and I wonder sometimes how his political career would have developed if he had not died.

* * *

Perhaps a final destination like Los Angeles or Seattle would have worked as well for Fisher Sanford Harris, but besides the benefits which SLC gained from his presence, he would have missed being memorialized by Ardis 100 years later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my ancestors also relocated to Salt Lake City as a Gentile. A former Union soldier, he had attempted to start a business school in the South, but it did not work and his career as a carpetbagger was very short. </p>
<p>After that, he took a job which took him through SLC. He also decided to stay. He started a business college and eventually joined the church.</p>
<p>Unfortunately in none of his writings do I recall an explanation of why he chose SLC.</p>
<p>On the surface, the answer as to why he came and stayed looks like Harris&#8217; story. They were both respectable, principled, talented speakers, politically ambitious, interested in public relations, interested in the business community.</p>
<p>Salt Lake City was a new community. It gave both of them an opportunity to use their formidable talents. </p>
<p>However, I also like to think that there were other factors. The nice climate. The respectable people. Compared to the South (I&#8217;m having to draw on my high school education here), there would have been a lack of corruption, a lack of ossified social structure, a lack of violence and a lack of day to day exposure to bigotry and racism.</p>
<p>My ancestor also died early. In his case it was 1894. He was a Republican (the party of Lincoln for this Union soldier) but he was also a very close associate of BH Roberts and I wonder sometimes how his political career would have developed if he had not died.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Perhaps a final destination like Los Angeles or Seattle would have worked as well for Fisher Sanford Harris, but besides the benefits which SLC gained from his presence, he would have missed being memorialized by Ardis 100 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, although I&#039;ve been following his Utah career for years, and have traced some Virginia ancestry, I have not seen anything to explain why he came to Utah. My best guess right now is that there were no real economic opportunities for him in Virginia so he came west. He may not even have been headed to Utah in particular, but recognized a good thing when he saw it. 

Had he lived, I believe the social climate in Utah would have been quite different -- he had that much influence on both sides. For one thing, I think his Wizard of the Wasatch festival (something I will post about soon) would probably have caught on permanently, giving Utah a totally charming, totally nonpartisan business union for Mormon and non-Mormon alike. Pioneer Day would have preserved a more religious flavor and not become what it is today, disliked by most non-Mormons, and diluted from its earlier purpose in the interest of being all-inclusive. The political scene would be different, too, because we wouldn&#039;t all define ourselves so much by what we are not -- not Mormon, or not not-Mormon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, although I&#8217;ve been following his Utah career for years, and have traced some Virginia ancestry, I have not seen anything to explain why he came to Utah. My best guess right now is that there were no real economic opportunities for him in Virginia so he came west. He may not even have been headed to Utah in particular, but recognized a good thing when he saw it. </p>
<p>Had he lived, I believe the social climate in Utah would have been quite different &#8212; he had that much influence on both sides. For one thing, I think his Wizard of the Wasatch festival (something I will post about soon) would probably have caught on permanently, giving Utah a totally charming, totally nonpartisan business union for Mormon and non-Mormon alike. Pioneer Day would have preserved a more religious flavor and not become what it is today, disliked by most non-Mormons, and diluted from its earlier purpose in the interest of being all-inclusive. The political scene would be different, too, because we wouldn&#8217;t all define ourselves so much by what we are not &#8212; not Mormon, or not not-Mormon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an interesting and delightful man!

Ardis, do we know what brought him to Utah territory?  I think it is significant that he arrived even before the manifesto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting and delightful man!</p>
<p>Ardis, do we know what brought him to Utah territory?  I think it is significant that he arrived even before the manifesto.</p>
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